SANSCO [True 1080p HD] 4 Channel DVR CCTV Security Camera System with (4) 2MP Super HD Outdoor Bullet Cameras (1920×1080, IP66 Vandal-Proof, Improved Night Vision, Quick App Viewing, No Hard Drive Disk)
SANSCO CCTV Camera System, 4-Channel 1080p DVR & 4x Super FHD 2MP Outdoor Cameras, No Hard Drive
Classic design simple but grand, feeling absolutely peace of mind wherever you are as long as the SANSCO Security camera system is in your home/office. HD camera, crisp 1080p resolution offers you videos or pictures with accurate & natural colors during the daytime, and 24/36 IR LEDs for every camera enable good night vision. Smart motion detection makes sure that you know anything wrong or abnormal in real time.
1080p DVR:
- 4 Channel Real-time 1080p HD
- Playback: 4 Channels of 1080p real time (hard drive required)
- Video: 4CH BNC input, 1CH HDMI outout, 1CH VGA output
- Audio: 4CH RCA input, 1CH RCA output
- Net interface: One RJ45 10M / 100M
- Hard disk: support ONE internal SATA hard drive (3.5-inch) up to 6TB
- Support iOS, Android mobile viewing via App: Xmeye
- Software client (compatible with Windows & Mac), Web-browser: Internet Explorer
Cameras:
- Image Sensor: 1/2.9 inch color CMOS
- Resolution: All 1920x 1080, 2.0 Mega pixels
- TV System: NTSC / PAL
- IR LEDs: 36 LEDs, night vision
- Each camera comes with a BNC video cable (Approx. 20m)
Important to Know:
- HDMI / VGA cable ,TV/Monitor and remote control are not included.
- The system supports other 1080p AHD cameras and is compatible with analog cameras down to 960H.
- Hard Drive not included. If you want to record or playback, you will need to install a hard drive first.
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Multi-PlatformConnect your DVR to our XMeye app to securely view your security system from your mobile device or desktop computer. See what your cameras see (or watch their recorded footage) from wherever you are in the world. With iOS, Android and PC options, your security system will always be at your fingertips. Customize features like intelligent recording and instant email alerts for motion-triggered events to ensure you are always connected to your property. | TRUE 1080PTo make sure you get the most out of your surveillance solution, this bundle comes with 4 2MP high definition cameras giving a higher resolution at 1920x1080p. This larger pixel count translates into a higher definition image with added details and recognition. For even more clarity, this DVR records 1080p video for smooth playback with continuous motions that ensures every details is captured. Offering you an effective pixel size of FHD 1920x1080p, these 2MP cameras act as your second set of eyes. | Improved Night VisionThe SANSCO is known for its high-quality images. All the cameras provide FHD 1080p resolution and record FHD video in real-time manner for smooth playback. All of the cameras are enabled with smart IR-cut filter which ensures good night vision and could detect and show objects up to 15-20m even in darkness. Never been left in the darkness any more. |
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IP66 Rating – All CamerasIn addition to raising the bar with HD picture quality, these cameras also come pre-built to withstand intense weather conditions. The IP66 rating standard specifies that these units are totally dust tight as well as being able to endure any kind of wind and rain. When weather conditions outside are working against you, you can rest easy knowing these cameras are working for you. | Easy Video BackupIf you install a hard drive into the DVR box, you will be able to record everything important, not only that, if you plug in a USB memory stick, or an external hard drive with a USB connection, you can organize and sort your snapshots and recordings however you like. You can then forward those as evidence or proof easily. | Watch things happen as they happenReal-time, highly reliable HD video without loss or delay. Easy to configure, access, and control. Scan QR Code on the DVR from the “XMeye” app (available on iOS and Android) to instantly access live viewing and playback, as well as email notification in real time. Connects to and manages all the cameras on your network for ultimate ease and convenience in a home security system. | Smart Motion DetectionMotion detection function enables your camera system to taking records only when unusual activity detected to save HDD space. You could use this system in a smarter way by customizing motion detection as you need, i.e. set motion detection sensitivity, a perimeter zone, specify which areas of the camera’s motion grid are active and even set a 24×7 schedule for it. (Hard Drive Required) |
| Weight: | 9.92 Pounds |
| Size: | 1 Count (Pack of 1) |
| Dimensions: | 37 x 18 x 29 centimetres |
| Brand: | Sansco |
| Model: | 8104+ 6699*4 no hdd |
| Part: | 8104+6699*4 no hdd |
| Colour: | Black |
| Colour: | Black |
| Size: | 1 Count (Pack of 1) |
Quality of this camera is very good for its price. My friend recommended me. Installation is very easy . I received all wires and connectors with it. Only thing I bought is hard disk. I have 3 bedroom house so wires are enough to cover whole area. It comes with 4 cameras, dvr without hard disk and all wires.
Great product for the price.
I have owned this for 3 years and for the price its been really good.
The infra red on a couple of the cameras has played up a few times due to poor wiring inside though.
I probably won’t purchase from here again though myself due to Amazons changes to Visa credit card purchases.
I highly recommend.
everything works perfect. clear picture. no problems.
I recommend it to everyone who is looking for cameras for their home.
I have no problem with my set up I’m over the moon thanks
Excellent piece of equipment and more than capable of my requirements. Easy to set up and install, the app that comes with the system is excellent. The installation requires holes to be drilled through the external wall to install camera! I am very pleased with my choice of system and the price.
I was very pleased with how quick the unit arrived, fitted cameras easy and very happy with the quality of the items. The only negative I found was the mouse that came with the system, plugged in to set up admin and password and found it didn’t work at all very disappointed. I had a mouse on a computer ,so used that to set up system. Other wise happy with overall experience setting up and working so far. Waiting for network cable to hook up to mobile app for our phones. Will update later.
Needed to replace a very old Swann CCTV system, which was starting to have problems Wanted a wired system so that I could use wiring already installed. Quick set up for me, just unplug old DVR and cameras and plug in the new. Was not expecting to much for the price, pleasantly surprised, good quality video, reasonable night vision , easy to navigate software. For the price hard to fault. If you want a cheap wired CCTV system I recommend this.
Motion alert is a bit too sensitive but ive turned off the alerts and just look at the alert recording when i want/need to.
For the price its pretty much perfec
Bought this about a month ago now as I was bored in lockdown and wanted something to do, plus wanted to protect my property. Comes with everything you need. I did order longer connecting cables as I had to run 1 camera to my garage which is detached from the house. Picture quality is amazing on this unit. Dvr is basic but serves its purpose. I left mine in the attic, and ran wires down through the walls to an upstairs TV and purchased a wireless mouse and USB extender which works flawlessly. My only little gripe with this unit is the alarm and motion detection. I have played and played with the settings but get so many false alarms during the evening it’s unreal. The infrared attracts a lot of flies at night which set off the motion detection throughout the night. But having said that the system is serving its purpous and overall I’m very pleased with it.
Have had the SANSCO CCTV system for a year and 4 months. Had an issue with one of the cameras, Sansco rectified quickly to my satisfaction.
Cameras have good quality picture and company provides good service
PROS.
Good HD DVR 1TB hard drive (latter not included) offering approx 2 weeks recording time with 4 x HD cameras.
Also Includes…..all BNC Leads and connectors , Ethernet connector and mouse.
4 x metal HD No. 6699 cameras producing good quality HD imaging. These perform well in all weather conditions.
Instructions are clear and straightforward to aid assembly.
Reliable unit.
CONS
Considering its budget price – not a lot!
We have received only two cameras, there are 4 camera boxes but two were empty! we need missing two cameras as soon as possible.
Does what it says on the tin easy to set up and install
Found the installation and set up reasonable, minor set up connection isues on network / ethernet resolved by customer support hlepline, general DVR menu easy to use, found slight issues when settimg up the Motion Detect Mode as being quite sensitive and had to lower sensitivity level lower for night as found false Motion Alarms triggered by spiders and insects on face of camera.
Generally nice unit for price, good basic CCTV security and recording, playback function easy, also set up to mobile device XMeye program, also CMS Control desk unit to Computer / Laptop easy install. Good camera image and picture close up.
Good camera system. It’s my belief this would be more difficult for a novice to setup. I am an IT/AV tech. Some of the advanced features are not well documented (rtsp streams etc) That being said for the price you are getting a great little camera system. I added a 2tb hard drive and get nearly 10 days of HD feed on all four channels. The features like video blind and motion alarms are very difficult to get to work correctly and will spam your email over night an email a minute if not setup well (which was hard even for myself who is in the trade) For this reason I have given four stars.
Purchased as an upgrade to an old home security system. Very pleased with the picture quality and it’s good value for money.
IR only works when it decides to, never works most of the time
Great company had issue problem was solved easily an quickly thank so much feel happy an safe in my home with these cameras thanks agai
Advise setting up the kit before installing, just in case. After successfully fitting my own HDD, (I bought the cheaper non HDD version) I then put one camera up to see the result before putting up any more. The cameras are made of soft aluminium and unfortunately so is the main locking ring which holds them in place, not a good fit, you may need some tape to take up the slack in the threads.
After a week the night vision on said camera had started to give out strange patterns around the image yet day time was spot on.
I emailed customer service based in China, they were very quick on replying and a replacement camera was sent out and received within a week, UK sourced by the speed of it. All four cameras are now up and running. The HD quality is excellent during the day, the night vision is sort of ok. The play store mobile app works a fair amount of the time, dependant on internet speed which is always up and down. The Sansco customer service who as I mentioned earlier are based in China are, up to now very helpful.
Two of the cameras have recently started, intermittently, to give out the strange patterns at night which I mentioned earlier. The reliability issue of the cameras is now in question hence my four stars. It’s not worth the effort of taking them down at the moment as the day time vision is good. WATCH THIS SPACE.
I had a spare hard drive and monitor so this was economical and easy to set-up and use. Great picture quality even in low light. Used to secure front door and garden room inside and out. Easy to access remotely using phone app. Does need a little bit of tech/computer knowledge but nothing that Google can’t answer.
Should have bought the 8 channel, 4 seemed enough but 4 cameras quickly becomes too few.
Impressed with ease of setup, features and quality for the money
Good cctv system for the price, easy to install with plenty of cable (18mtr) per camera, good quality picture (day & night) and easy to install mobile app.
Used as there has been breakings around me and u can put it where it beeps if someone comes near ur car or front doo
This replacement Sansco has left me with mixed feelings, The DVR is first class, easy to set up, very good picture quality and easy to set up both phone app and PC viewing. As I said the phone app (android) took minuets to get going and will allow me to access the cameras live wherever there is Wi-Fi connectivity available.
I had a little more bother linking to my windows 10 PC, the unit won’t work with MS edge, but having Internet Explorer as a back up it wasn’t a big deal. The software on the disk and messing with the gateway settings proved fruitless, until I twigged “why not just use the IP address”, it worked first time. the image quality is first class.
Now the installation, the PVR as I said was no problem but now to the cameras! Whoever designed the camera mounts should be hung up by the thumbs, take a look at the pictures the one with the mount straight to the camera will allow up down OR left right adjustment only, not both, you can rotate the camera but what use is that? The second picture works better as you can go up down and left right with some rotation, but means you have to mount the cameras “side on” to the surface, not always practical. The adjusting screws are tiny allen headed jobs, not nice to work with in wet and cold conditions, the body of the mounts is made of a week alloy with the durability of cheese, one thread has already stripped and the bolt now replaced with a piece of wire whilst I source a long enough bolt and nut to replace it.
Now the quality of the cameras, the definition is first class and even with the phone app you can choose to view in HD, the colour accuracy is first class and focus is good with a useful night vision range, night vision is also sharp.
However, and there had to be one, these cameras have VERY wide angle lens almost fish eye so if you align them to a straight wall one side the rest of the world falls away dramatically. I know they were not designed for doing fashion shoots but this is a bit off putting when you are used to the more “normal” image of other cameras.
In summery I suppose you get what you pay for if the system lasts a couple of years it will have done it’s job, but I foresee I’m probably going to have to do some repair work to the mounts at some time as I can’t see being able to adjust then and being able to tighten the screws effectively without stripping the threads.
Summery, good enough for the money don’t expect too much, as others have pointed out this cheaper version comes without a HDD, no problem for me as I just used the one from the old system but you will have to factor that in, delivery from the supplier was fast, I will just mention the mini CD that came with the system has a PDF manual that only half works but there are loads of You Tube videos showing the set up.
I am absolutely thrilled at this cctv system not only is it easy to set up the picture quality is amazing day and night! I was actually shocked at how good the quality is.
Not only would I recommend this product I would recommend the seller.. unfortunately one of the cameras didn’t work upon installing but after a late night email to the seller (11.30pm!) i recieved a swift response and a new camera was sent to me in which I recieved in 2 days and problem solved!
If your looking for a good quality cctv system for roughly 150 (including hard drive) then look no further get this!!
Install for the Sansco was straight forward as i have all the cables in place from the previous DVR so re-used them
the cameras them selfs surprised me great picture quality and sharpness day and night
Night vision is very good the IR cut hangs in until dusk so you get colour cctv for as long as possible something my previous DVR did not do .
as with all the cheap DVR kits don’t believe the claims on detail at distance non of them our very good at distance details reading a car reg for example this dvr is probably clearly read a licence plate at 6-10 meters after that its readable up to about 15 m after that i don’t think you could use it court but you can guess what the plate is most of my camera angles our close range but this kit works way better than most.
the dvr it self is smaller than expected it has been 4 years since last kit purchased.been
My set up is plug and play as I said had all the cables so no issues there although I will be reusing a couple of the older cameras and the new leads as this is a 8 channel .
One thing I never noticed before purchasing was the lack of video out aux jack I use this to feed round the house no issue although I can work around that more than happy with this item .
down sides (non so far)
Nothing to do with the item it self but the app is rubbish all ways has been and will be don’t see the point in uploading the feeds to a server in china then having an app to pull the same feeds back down for live view .
I use the app only as a way to connect to the dvr and play back recorded content if out the house I don’t use it for live view at all .
there is a way to view the live feeds direct i.e dvr —> phone/mac/pc avoiding the china server and the app
It’s not for the faint of hear lol needs a bit of patience but is worth it as the feeds load fast theres no lag or crashing if anyones interested I will put together a HOW2 BASED ON THIS DVR SETUP only … as it bugged me for years.
Probably will work with other sansco/sannce DVR’s .
I was going to upload photos from the monitor screen but they will not do the picture justice due to screen glare so haven’
For the cost this is a very good piece of kit. I bought a 2TB hard drive from elswhere and installed it myself – very easy with a Youtube video.
There was a small probpem as one of the cables was slightly faulty and wouldn’t connect but the response was superb and the seller immediately sent me a new cable which arrived very promptly. You will have no problems with the seller. The app works really well and is very simple to use. You can control settings from the app as well as from plugging the DVR box into a TV/monitor for more in depth settings.
The cameras are not perfect but this could be my internet as I view from my phone/tablet.
All in all I would definitely recommend this product which would give you peace of mind around a home / small business property.
Good peice of kit easy to install . instructions very basic tho…having trouble with remote access to device can’t find help line…emeye for remote viewing works perfect easy to do aswell
sound but some drilling stapling and a load of wire
The picture in the day is very clear and at night it is surprisingly good too with the night vision on so I do recommend this as for 99 you can’t really go wrong. Please note the 99 was without a hard drive, I bought my own 2TB drive and installed it.
This looks like a very good purchase for the price but not fitted ye
Excellent system, easy to install and fantastic picture quality. Brilliant follow up customer service and advice with setting up the mobile app. Highly recommend this product.
Camera are easy to set up, good picture and instruction are clear. Works well on phone app.
Great kit, I added my own hard drive which was simple and instantly recognised – used a 2TB so I have hundreds of hours of hd recording space. camera quality is clear, good at night (low light) and can access using the app and directly by web browser.
Best purchase for home security and at a decent cost. The resolution is impressive with the added bonus of excellent technical support.
Received within a couple of days, well packaged and good instructions. The cameras are of excellent quality giving a clear view up to at least 15m in the day. The cameras were simple to set up and best value for money
I had these cameras installed at my home and they were so good that I bought some for my mums and again they are excellent.
Simple system to install. Any problems with connecting to the internet and the tech guys email you with solutions.
Not suitable for my property. But the kit supplied was solid, no criticisms could be made of customer service when I returned the system. The team were nothing but accommodating, pleasant and quick to act.
I’d definitely not deter others from buying thir goods.
1 of the camera lens is not in centre, i have not installed them, all i have done is tested them if they work. yes picture quality very good, also night vision. Now I contacted the supplier via Amazon, Supplier contacted me via phone and dealt with this issue fast and very professional. They are replacing this faulty camera. Now this is what I call Good Customer Service. Hassle free, and i would recommend these cameras, yes i was faulty, thats with any product, as long as you get a very good after sale service like i did, you dont need to worry. Now I have ordered 2TB HDD to put WD Surveillance purple model, made for cctv, again easy to install and once iv installed, everything i will put up pictures & quality of video
Top goods recommend also if you have any problems the tech department is bang o
Item arrived on time, looks and feels good, laid everything out to set up, opened instruction booklet , only to discover it looks like there is a power cord missing as instructions state /picture on diagram show 1 power cord from dvr box to wall socket and one power adapter from camera splitter cord to wall socket. after wasting a day and a half trying to figure and looking to contact seller and amazon we find the adapter from instruction booklet is neither required nor supplied as cameras plug direct to adapter and box. works fine but seller needs to update instruction booklet. yes I would recommend to a friend but id be sure to warn them NOT to follow instruction manual.
It works great the only issue I can point is the connection with the app on the iPhone, sometimes does not connect, don’t know if it is about my mobile broadband being to slow but it works great. Thinking about buying a ptz to add any advice?
Great value for money, clear set up instructions, loads of cable, great picture. Item arrived as promised on a Sunday even though only ordered on the Saturday many thanks
A1 for the price cant complain easy set up good pic good home set up
I bought this to use in different country , i paid so much for the shipping but its worth it .
Easy to install .
Customer service is perfect .
Excellent system, easily setup and cameras are very clear. Support system is first class too. Would recommend.
Great value product. Had issues setting it up, as im no expert, but their customer service was world class and fast. Even over the xmas period there were instant replies. 5 STAR!
Amazing. Definately recommend. Easy to set up. Brilliantly clear pictures in day and night. Fantastic. My parents even bought one after seeing mine!!
Brilliant service thank you.. very impressed and great communication via email.
Good and very easy system to install and to use! Greate support from the seller. I’m satisfied completely.
Used for a while now no issues wish I had bought the eight camera version easy set up view via iPad and iPhone no issues at all nice to check cameras whiles hundreds of miles away from home
I bought this system in october for the price i paid its fantastic and i can leave with my house with the peice of mind that if some toe rag does come onto my property there is a good chance i will find them and be able to prove it was them. The pic quality is great in both light and dark conditions. The aftrercare i have recieved has been 2nd to none with a response on both occcasions within hours from the seller.
We get the added benefit of being able to sit and watch the foxes as they come into the garden on a night. Our very own Spring Watch!
Fantastic piece of equipment. Came at a bargain price and the customer support is out of this world, if only everyone you bought off could be this good, Amazon would be bigger than the EU. Got it for security and peace of mind at night time. The picture is first class and from what I’ve seen has absolutely no ‘drag’. Packaged superbly with everything you could possibly need. Please note, you do need to get a hard-drive, these you can get (20 for a 500gb), they can be for desktop or a laptop but it MUST be SATA. You might even have an old one lying about at home. Not fully conversant with all of its ‘add ons’ yet but I got it for security and it gives me plenty of that without knowing all the ins and outs! This item gets 5 stars for all the things I mentioned. Customer service is VERY important when buying something like this, it was excellent and they must get at least an extra star (if I could give 6) for theirs.
I bought this because it reads on the product ” access it remotely from both the internet via internet explorer and/or select 3G smart cell phones”… Well it does not work. I have it connected and set up its IP address and even set up port forwarding on my hub. It seems to connect to the device but the cameras are not being displayed.
Updated: It does not work on some windows 10 devices and all windows phones. Finally got it to work on a W10 laptop, HP x360, but still not on the HP Pavillon I have. Also works on iPad and Android but is that not the same as every other device. Initially raised as 1 star but as I have finally persevered in getting it working it would be unfair to leave it as such. Just be warned that it will take a LOT of work in getting it working on your LAN and it only works on the WEB by going thru xmeye.net and connecting to the device serial number rather than registering.
very pleased with the item, when i ordered the item it came next day. picture quality very good you be be daft not to buy this item if you want a CCtv camera.
Great product and quality, you will need a hard drive to record. Ideal and easily installed in my shop , night vision is crystal clear as well as the day. Easy to use
great product, works as good as stated. would buy agai
Great system for the money. Easy to set up, decent quality images from the HD cameras and good feature set including remote smartphone access over the Internet. Very Happy
Three points worthy of special notes of caution.
1) The cameras have a narrow angle. The 6mm cameras are great for looking down a garden (ours is 100ft, at which point it gets the 30ft width in easily) but not so great for monitoring what is going on near the camera. In our case we mounted one camera under the 2nd storey soffit, looking down onto the driveway, wher we park close to the house. The camera picked up only the car, boot to windscreen incl. but is not wise enough angle to capture the 8m2 area we use for parking two cars. I replaced that camera with a Zosi 3.5mm aperture camera, same powered video concept – it plugged in and operates perfectly well, and I can see my whole driveway.
2) They ain’t waterproof via the power cable in/out point! My soffit leaks a bit – I found out because I mounted one camera under that soffit and drilled up into it, passed the cables through that hole and thought all the electrics were safely out of the weather. The camera lasted just 8 hours; that night it rained heavily and the water made its way down my cable channel, into the camera body via the cable route, and it basically filled up with water. Mitigation: fill the underside where the cable goes into the camera stand, with a lot of flexible, waterproof bathroom caulk. And, yes, don’t have leaky soffits.
3) The XmEye app that ships free with the system is easy to use and works. However, you should not use a guessable password or one that you use elsewhere. Choose a hard to guess but throwaway password. When I forgot my password and clicked the link to reset it, the XmEye “cloud” system sent me my password in plain text. To clarify: this means that, if you use their cloud based option (which you do when logging into your cameras from outside your home wifi range) XmEye stores your password “in the cloud” as PLAIN TEXT. If they are ever hacked the hackers would have your email and your password. Personally I can live with this because I’ve used throwaway password (one that you only use once for one site and don’t reuse in anything else like your email, facebook or twitter account or something like that).
Nice piece of kit , cameras are brilliant picture quality is great .
Only downside is lack of good instructions as it has many options.
This system works really well and gives good quality images. Easy to setup and I love having access to the cameras in my home from my mobile phone. After running it for a few months my box developed a fault where it wouldn’t output via HDMI only VGA but the supplier had a replacement box to me by the end of the next working day. Excellent service!
Good system. Easy to setup. The android app is neat too.
Easy to install. If you don’t find it easy you shouldn’t be installing it. Best quality for the price. Had some excellent after service from Maggie who addressed an issue I had very quickly
Couldn’t be better for the price. Straight forward to fit and use
Great price for the product, packaged well.
I would recommend.
Great picture quality and easy to install instructions for setting up system a bit complicated and help web page not much help,but well worth the price ,also remote viewing for mobile devices very handy
Top quality product and resolution. Easily fitted. Very good value for money.
Tried to contact for help but there is not much contact info. That’s me had enough! I have asked for some documentation from supplier – Watch this space, will update with results. Did get contacted to ask if I wanted a refund. I don’t want a refund, I want proper documentation!! A refund would mean uninstalling the whole system which is already cabled/connected.
UPDATE: Got sent some documentation which helped a bit and although the product isn’t perfect, It is probably a bargain at the price.
Come on Sannce, get the finger out if you want to have good customer relations…
If you are not interested in mobile viewing then it works straight from the box. You only need one power source for the dvr as the 4 cameras connect straight into the dvr and starts recording straight away.You will need a monitor or tv to view the video, but it does not have to be connected to record. If you don’t want to use all 4 cameras then don’t plug them in and only the cameras plugged in will work.
The picture quality is brilliant during the day and as good as you would expect at night. I would recommend this system and to buy from the seller as he was really helpful when I couldn’t figure out a couple of things, and even took the time to ring me to talk me through, I would also recommend buying from Amazon because if you don’t like it you can send it back, but if you want a cctv kit you will not be disappointed with this one
Got this CCTV system for my home, image quality is excellent,plus massive hard drive.
Would highly recommend this item.
4 terabit hard disc, all easy connections on cameras would recommend.
The camera cables are very long (30m Ii think) so plenty of freedom to run them out of sight and they even automatically switch to infra red at night when lights go out.
The unit is small, about the size of a set top box and very light.
All in all a very simple high quality piece of kit. Recommended
Very pleased with simply installation, cameras are a good quality and picture very clear plus records .
Brought his as someone was trying to steal our dog. Great item to have and we now have every part of the house covered.
Bought this for my business very easy to set up and can monitor from my mobile using P2P all round a good product and service.