Thrustmaster TFRP – T. Flight Rudder Pedals (T.A.R.G.E.T Software, PC)
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The Thrustmaster TFRP (T.Flight Rudder Pedals)First rudder ever to feature the S.M.A.R.T (Sliding Motion Advanced Rail Track) slide rails system! Capitalizes on the brand’s 25 years of expertise and leadership. Is the device most highly requested by members of the flight sim community. | S.M.A.R.T (Sliding Motion Advanced Rail Track): A technological bonus4 slide rails crafted of industrial-grade aluminum for perfectly smooth sliding motion. Self-centering rudder axis: The perfect balance between smoothness and resistance for re-centering, for the most accurate maneuvers (1024 values on rudder). Long range of travel on rudder axis for precise maneuvers. | Thrustmaster Flight Simulation EcosystemThe Thrustmaster TFRP adds an innovative new product to Thrustmaster’s wide range of joysticks and other related flight-themed controllers, for a real ecosystem-based approach. |
Two differential brake pedals for optimized flying
Large differential brake pedals: 10 inches/25 centimeters (12/45 shoe size).
Rounded central pivot with central grip, on the differential brake’s axis.
Pivot angle with a 15° range of travel: on an incline for deliberate activation, avoiding inadvertent activation when using the rudder.
Sturdiness and Precision
Versatile ergonomic design suitable for all types of flight (aerial combat, space adventure, civil flight, etc.). With the heel-rest removed, you can control the rudder using the ball of your foot, with your heel on the floor. With the heel-rest in place, you can rest 100% of your foot on the pedal.
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USB and/or proprietary RJ12 connectivityOn PC (Windows 10/8/7/Vista), works with all joysticks on the market thanks to Thrustmaster’s drivers. On PC, compatible with all games supporting multi-USB and rudders. On PC and on PS4, works with and connects directly to the Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 joystick**. ** Official PlayStation4 joystick, also compatible with PC (sold separately) | Advanced calibration software: adjust dead zonesAdjust the dead zones at the beginning and end of the range of travel on the rudder axis, and on the 2 differential brake axes. Adjust the central dead zone on the rudder axis. | T.A.R.G.E.T advanced programming software on PC for Programming the axes of rudders and differential brakesThe USB rudder can be combined with Thrustmaster HOTAS WARTHOG, T16000Mand the MFD Cougar Pack so that they are recognized as a single USB device. Access advanced profiles created by the Thrustmaster community. |
Dimensions: | 349 x 314 x 200 cm; 1 Kilograms |
Model: | 2960764 |
Origin: | China |
Per le mie esigenze la pedaliera ideale, risponde a tutti i miei requisiti: …prezzo onesto (l’ho pagato 89), dimensioni contenute, possiiblit di lavorare autonomamente o in sinergia con altre periferiche del costruttore (TM), possibit di sostutuire la molla di richiamo. Certo, binari di scorrimento a parte (in acciaio), costruttivamente c’ molto PVC, ma per un prodotto di questa fascia di prezzo, non credo si potesse far di meglio. Pi che soddisfatto.
It’s good and works really nicely. Easy to clean compared to my previous set of rudder pedals from Logitech. The pedals feel smooth and easy to move, but if you are pushing the toe brakes then you will find it very hard to move the pedals. From time to time, I have also found it quite hard to keep the pedals in the centre as it is not very distinct where the centre is.
Ich nutze dieses Produkt mit X-Plane11 und einer VR-Brille.
Vorteilhaft ist fr mich das auch eine Fubremse getrennt nach linkem und rechtem Pedal implementiert ist.
Der einzige Schwachpunkt ist aus meiner Sicht das es sich bei heftigeren Flugmanvern auf dem Boden verschieben kann.
Hier muss man zustzliche Manahmen zur Arretierung treffen.
Je l’utilise pour DCS world et cela me convient parfaitement, aprs pour le prix vous aurez un produit tout plastique et un peut “cheap” mais franchement pour dbuter il est plus que convenable.
C’est intuitif et ergonomique avec un HOTAS on s’y croirait. Je recommande
Great product for price paid! The most notable thing with these pedals is that they grip to my carpet easily out of the box, no need to drill them into the floor compared to slightly more expensive options.
My only complaint is the detent on this is very weak so be careful if resting your foot on the pedals as you may be applying unwanted yaw to the aircraft!
Great buy and recommend for people that want pedals that simply just do the job.
Mais je cherche le rglage car trop rapide a tourne il faut trouve le juste millieu
Little light weight but work straight out of box. Removing the heel supports provides better control.
Le pdalier est prcis et offre une bonne rsistance, le retour au centre de fait bien.
Niveau finition rien a redire pour l’instant, il tient bien mme aprs plusieurs mois d’utilisation quotidienne.
Seul point qui me drange, je trouve les pdales trop proches ce qui peut provoquer une gne au niveau des jambes aprs quelques temps de jeu.
Quand les logiciels de pilotage d’avions le prennent en charge cela permet de complter un quipement de type HOTAS WARTHOG et cela rend le pilotage plus complet.
Que son los mejores pedales que hay ahora mismo en el mercado para pilotar aviones
Palonnier vraiment intressant pour complter le combo manche + manette gaz . Avoir le contrle de l’ensemble des mouvements de l’avion est grisant. On peut mettre les freins sur le palonnier, et la gestion de la puissance de freinage est prit en compte. Les rglages sont facile mme pour un dbutant. (tester avec Xplane 11)
Pleasure to move the pedals when flying in FSx, and installation was painless.
Great product for the price, easy to use. How much it will endure is yet to be seen.
Qualit e precisione per questi pedali, plug&play :consigliati per gli amanti delle simulazioni
Ottimo prodotto per una esperienza ancora pi realistica di volo simulato.
These rudder pedals are a pretty much must have for any flight sim setup for example I pretty much play only DCS World and before I used these pedals I was using a twist grip on my joystick which was fine but it hurts the wrist a lot when dogfighting so I bought these and I gotta say it’s improved my skills in dogfighting a lot more now since I don’t have to worry about using the twist grip. 10/10 best buy
Take some getting used to, but very good! A must for those starting in simulation.
Cumple perfectamente con lo q buscaba en mis pedales para el simulador de vuelo
The rudder pedals work fine but take a lot of adjustment to get right. I found it important to have a null zone. Also the brakes feel a bit soft and woolly. A lot of movement is required to get descent braking action.
The pedals fit great in the limited space I have by my pc but I can see what people mean about the spacing being a tad uncomfortable for men with bigger berries.
Also the pedals require a deft touch with a very slight center detent you will have to get used to them but if you want pedals that wont tax your strength then the smart rails are great.
Ive had them for a couple of days an the poti is holding up fine but years of use might yield differant results (Burned by the poti on the T16 twist breaking my reason for buying the pedals.)
But all together my experiance is positive.
Install en complment d’un hotas Warthog sur DCS world. Fonctionne trs bien. Mme s’il parat un peu “cheap” dans sa fabrication, le rapport qualit/prix est l.
En revanche, une fois de plus livr simplement dans sa boite d’origine sans aucune protection avec l’tiquette de transport colle directement dessus.
Trs bon palonnier, qui se met en place facilement (sauf sous linux) et fonctionne correctement.
Work as advertised . Good simple and responsive pedals used in DCS
The pedals are little close each other and sometimes the moving is not so smooth, but they do the work just fine. I am pretty sure this is the best choice for all of you guys who spend few hours per week on the flight simulator.
Okay… these are just okay….. for the money they are okay. I have had Logitech’s and they broke over time…. bought these as a fast replacement…..hmmmm they are lightweight but strong enough…. not much of a center detent which is a good thing if you like to fly heli’s…. but for sure they snag and judder… they seem to be easing up with daily use…. but had then for a few months now and still find them not having a very smooth input….pretty vital on heli’s…. not so mych for planes.
For the money though…. not so bad.
Adquir este producto de una oferta de amazon indicando que era un producto devuelto y la caja estara abierta. El precio mereca la pena. Al recibirlo el producto estaba impecable, aunque la caja estaba abierta, no se notaba que se hubiese usado. La instalacin fu muy fcil y funcion a la primera. Hay pedales mas caros, pero estos se ven muy duraderos con un material resistente y lo suficientemente pesado para que no se muevan. Contento con la compra.
Ich habe die Rudder gekauft fr mein Spiel DCS World. In verbindung mit den Thrustmaster System sind die Rudder ideal fr die Perfekte Kontrolle von Hubschrauber und Flugzeuge.
Die Rudder sind schnell aufgebaut und schnell Installiert. Beim Fliegen kann man auch mall ordentlich rein treten (ohne groe gewallt) ohne das sie verrutschen oder kaputt gehen. Die Reaktion ist sehr schnell und gut, so das man Punktgenau fliegen kann. Ich mag sie gerne und wrde nie wieder ohne Fliege
Trs bon palonnier pour faire de la simulation arienne.
Je recommande sans rserve.
So wie erwartet, gute Qualitt zum gnstigen Preis. Passt hervorragend zum Thrustmaster Warthog.
Bonne qualit, utilis pour de la simulation de vole, il rpond parfaitement au attentes.
Ho acquistato questo prodotto per fare un regalo. Il risultato stato sorprendente, contentissimi di averlo ricevuto. Dalle informazioni che ho avuto, funziona benissimo, lo hanno istallato e settato il pochissimo tempo. Ho chiesto se funziona davvero bene la risposta stata: da la sensazione di essere su un aereo vero. Credo non si possa chiedere di pi.
Had other pedals from saitek . Was never really able to get it working but these are really good . Set up and they work well with the warthog stick. Are a little light so will slip on smooth flooring.
Bei mir sind die Rudder jetzt seit knapp 3 Jahren im Einsatz. Hier also meine Eindrcke und Erfahrungen damit.
Pro
-Preis Leistung ist hierbei sehr gut, es ist bei weitem keine Profihardware, erfllt aber ihren Zweck bis heute fehlerfrei
-groe Fuauflagen und ist daher auch fr groe Menschen geeignet
-sehr robust
-einfache Installation
Contra
-kaum Widerstand, wodurch przise Manver zur Herausforderung werden
-schlechte Bodenhaftung, die Rudder rutschen auf glatten harten Oberflchen, auf Teppich bleiben sie an ihrem Platz
Good build, yes its made from plastic, but well constructed. Can slip on the floor a bit, but it is not a show stopper. If you have large feet (13UK) they fit, for even better comfort you can remove the back stop and just rest the balls of your feet on the paddles, comes with an Allen key.
The controls are sensitive and will require in game adjustments (DCS World) and sometimes it’s a little tricky finding the centre spot. Practice does make it easier, been using them now for 46 hours flight time. I would recommend.
These pedals are sturdy, relatively compact, and provide a good level of realism. Great for flight sims and upper air flying, lower air circuits and of course taxiing on the ground. Added fun and realism, also aircraft precision flying when mastered.
They grip the floor well, theyve moved a little on a plastic – under chair – mat I have (floor/carpet protector), but not much.
For me using FSX SE and Windows 10, these were plug and play – easy.
Great quality, proportional control, great value and really good fun.
on funziona sui giochi manca la predisposizione anche se il sistema lo riconosce vedr in futuro se con aggiornamenti si risolve
Dan muy buena sensacin en el simulador. Robustos y de buena calidad. Lo recomiendo.
Using with TM warthog playing dcs world great product light but well build. Packaging could be bette
Gracias. El producto tal como lo anuncian ha venido muy bien para haber sido por segundo comprado
Works great makes your flight sim better and easier to play, well made and a lot less expensive then some.
Are they worth buying? Yes they are.
I was worried that they might be too narrow (I’m a big chap) but no they are not.
Worked out of the box no down loads and nothing to change in X plane 11.
Diese Pedale sind sehr empfehlenswert , die Qualitt ist sehr gut und der Preis ist ok.
Ottimo articolo, solido e di buona qualit. Il controllo preciso e le molle sono resistenti.
Se devo trovare delle pecche sono l’assenza del sistema di ancoraggio vero e proprio (ci sono dei gommini anti scivolo, ma non sono sufficienti. Delle ventose sarebbero state meglio, ma comunque non un problema gravissimo) e l’impossibilit di allontanare i pedali dal centro.
In definitiva, comunque, un prodotto sicuramente consigliato.
ot bad, for a FIRST time using flight pedals, in sim flying. mostly heavy duty plastic apart from pedal rails. no replacement spring. and the spring inside. not strong enough to “pull pedals back into rest position” apart from that. not bad. perfect for a new player to flight sims. overall 4 out of five. calibration. easy. just follows directions to Thrust master website for the firmware.
Fr Flugsimulatoren (bei mir DCS mit der F/A18) sehr zu empfehlen. Bei Spielen wie Star Citizen macht ein Stinky Board mehr Sinn…
Very nice rudder pedals, Easy to move and manuvere and they can be used for flight and car games. I think that they are just as good at the Logiteck Saitek rudder pedals for 40.00 cheape
Tolles Produkt, jedoch sind die Pedale nicht immer flssig zu bewegen, sondern ruckeln ein bisschen. Mglicherweise kann ein Tropfen Schmierl helfe
great product and is very responsive to the controls and works well with any aircraft that I fly
These rudder pedals were purchased to replace faulty ones, which I didn’t like, but endured to the end. So, their demise was a pleasant reason for the change. Having proved Thrustmaster to be the producer of an excellent Joystick, I trusted them to do the same for these Rudder Pedals. I was not disappointed.
The rudder peddals work very well when used in DCS. Good quality and smooth movements in them. Could be better quality construction, however they are of good quality construction, especially for the price.
Me he comprado los pedales para el xplane. La verdad, no entiendo a la gente que dice que no som cmodos ni robustos. Son muy grandes, y eso que yo tengo bjen pie, y precisos. Estoy encantado y encima valen mucho menos que los de saitek. Me parecen robustos, no s si la gente los trata a patadas o qu. Tienen las guas de acero y asientan muy bien. Ni se me levantan al pisar ni nada. No entiendo otros comentarios, la verdad.
These are one of the least expensive set of pedals you can get, but far from the worst. They are almost completely made out of plastic as you might expect but they are more robust than they initially appear. As long as you don’t use them while wearing walking boots they should be fine.
The Pros: Good value for money compared to others on the market. They have toe brakes and the pedals slide smoothly. They worked straight out of the box I just plugged them in and calibrate them in the game itself with no need to download and install drivers (I use Windows 10 and the game was X-Plane 11).
The Cons: The cable from the pedals is quite short so your PC needs to be on, or next to, the desk/chair you are going to use them from. The two pedals are set quite close together and may be a little uncomfortable if you keep your feet on them all the time. There is no means of adjusting any of the tension in the pedals and may be a bit stiff for children under about 7 or so.
I am more than happy with this product and think if you want a pair of pedals for a flight simulator these are the ones you should go for, unless you want pay out 200+ .
He ledo que muchos se quejan de la debilidad y la fragilidad de los pedales pero en realidad no son dbiles y la nica parte frgil realmente es la parte de abajo, en los lados de la base, pero teniendo cuidado no tienen porqu romperse. Es decir que cuando se coge la parte de abajo hay que levantarlos con cuidado. Al usarlos te has cuenta que son muy precisos y son adems muy cmodos. Al precio que pague por ellos realmente estn muy bien.
Thrustmaster, almeno per me, sempre una garanzia. Pedaliera solida e facile da installare, c’ poco da dire, ottimo prodotto
Ce yoke est meilleur que mon prcdent tous points de vue: Aspect, souplesse du manche, poids et adhrence sur support. la techno magntique devrait fiabiliser la profondeur et la cde de virage. Malgr ca le prix me semble OK.
OK et reconnu d’office par Xplane10 depuis 2 semaines.
Reste a savoir si les boutons en haut du manche tiendront sur la duree car les fils a l’interieur sont surement sollicites.
I bought this rudder pedal because the Logitech ones weren’t available when I bought my yoke and throttle set. I’ve used Thrustmaster steering wheel and pedals for Euro Truck Sim 2 for years and always found them solid and reliable and genuine value for money, and this set seems just as solid, if not more so.
Have only been using them for 24 hours but can’t find anything negative to say – I’d recommend them and they plug into the USB on the Logitech yoke or into your PC.
A note to the X-Plane 11 enthusiast. In my setup I had to reverse the toe brakes in the configuration as brakes were permanently on when disengaged and would only come off when pressed. I think I had to download a driver for X-Plane to enable them but the support is on the website.
Very fast delivery and excellent packaging. After a few moments in setting up the pedals work as expected. The flying experience is upgraded with them, although I need some time to get familiar at using them correctly.
Nach langer Suche nach einem bezahlbarem Komplett-Paket fr Fliegerei bin ich letztendlich bei dem System von Thrustmaster hngengeblieben.
Nach anfnglicher Skepsis, da ich keinerlei Erfahrung habe, habe ich doch bestellt. Gewohnt flotter Versand. Ausgepackt, angeschlossen, Treiber heruntergeladen (Seite von Thrustmaster gut aufgebaut) und in Betrieb genommen.
Sehr schick auch das Target GUI wo man fr seine Anwendungen und Spiele die einzelnen Komponenten nach belieben einstellen kann.
Lediglich die Zuweisung der einzelnen Achsen und Knpfe erfordert etwas Wissenschaft und Trial & Error aber nach kurzer Zeit war ich dort wo ich hinwollte.
Es ist wohl kein High-End Teil, kommt fr mich im Moment aber ziemlich nah ran.
Die Verarbeitung ist super, es wirkt nicht billig oder windig, es ist halt aus Kunststoff. Die Pedale bleiben auch am Boden dort wo sie sollen. Man sollte sich nur berlegen fr seinen Brostuhl bremsen einzurichten, da ein zurckrollender Stuhl mehr als nervig ist.
Alles in Allem finde ich das Produkt sehr gelungen und spreche aus derzeitiger Sicht eine klare Kaufempfehlung aus.
The T-Flight Rudder Pedals are very nice, good solid construction and feel quite smooth in use, setup was quick and easy, works perfectly with X-Plane 11, DCS World and ArmA 3.
Ottimo prodotto. Ho avuto qualche difficolt iniziale, ma solo perch non avevo calibrato la sensibilit sul simulatore.
Ora vediamo se durer a lungo, io quando non lo uso lo avvolgo nella plastica per non far prendere polvere ai meccanismi.
Me hace sentir como un piloto de verdad, y adems es multiusos: coche y avin. Ya haba odo hablar sobre Trhustmaster, pero ya s que es una compaa de confianza.
Has made aiming and coordinating turns much easier than with Thrustmasters twisting T.Flight Stick X. They have good sensitivity and a negligible dead zone and have not slipped or tipped up during breaking on our carpeted floor.
Los compr para DCS, por este precio no hay nada mejor. No tuve que instalar nada y el simulador lo detecta automticamente. Muy recomendable
Nach langer Flusi-Zeit habe ich mir nun endlich ein Paar Pedalen gekauft. Da ich als Besitzer des Warthog-Joysticks ein kleiner Fan von Thrustmaster geworden bin, fiel die Wahl sehr schnell auf dessen Pedale.
Die Verarbeitung ist wie gewohnt sehr gut, obwohl ich mir weniger Plastik gewnscht htte. Habe vorher nicht besonders viel recherchiert und war daher etwas ernchtert. Aber: Es ist dennoch von ordentlicher Qualitt und keineswegs schlecht.
Die Kontrollfhigkeit ist wirklich super. Die Pedalen sind sehr leichtgngig und przise. Sowohl mit, als auch ohne Schuhen wunderbar zu bedienen. Ich habe relativ kleine Fe (Gre 42) und komme am besten klar, wenn ich die Fu-Sttzen am unteren Ende abschraube. Der Fuballen kann dann auf dem Boden aufliegen. Sicher Geschmacksache.
Einziger Makel am Produkt ist meiner Meinung nach, dass die Gummis, die die Pedalen an Ort und Stelle halten sollen, nicht ausreichend sind. Hier habe ich mit zustzlichen Stoppern den Widerstand erhht. Das verhindert dann ungewolltes Rutschen.
Wer also eine sehr gute Alternative zu den Saitek/Logitech-Plastikbombern sucht, ist mit diesen Pedalen gut beraten.
Lieferung kam eher als vorausgesagt. Funktion sofort nach Anschluss am USB-Port sofort gegeben. Ruderempfindlichkeit mit der A10-Simulationssoftware justiert. Landungen mit Seitenwind, Bremsaktionen nach Landungen und Lenkungen am Boden sind jetzt leichter und realistischer zu handhaben in der Simulation. In der Kombination mit der Bodenplatte des Thrustmater Warthog Joysticks, knnten die Ruderpedale ruhig etwas weiter auseinanderliegen.
First rudder set I use with any PC flightsim.
Works very well and smooth right out of the package. Can really recommend it.
Macht was es soll. Wurde problemlos von Win10 mit P3D4erkannt.
Hatte Bedenken wegen dem geringen Pedalabstand. Ist aber durchaus OK
Aprs un soucis avec le premier envoi (problme de configuration avec FSX) que j’ai tent de rsoudre avec la Hotline Thurstmaster (trs efficace et ractive).
Amazon a repris ces frais, remboursement en 48h, deuxime envoi par Amazon super rapide.
Plus aucun soucis de configuration.
Je m’en sert tout les jours depuis 6 mois aucun problme pas grippage des pdales, trs bonne sensibilit, j’ai retrouv le plaisir de piloter mes hlicos.
Ottimo prodotto, settaggi precisi, replica perfettamente il comportamento di una vera pedaliera di aeromobile, basta settare la sensibilita a livelli in medio bassi poich se di default piuttosto sensilbile .
Trs bon rapport qualit/prix et emploi sur Mac OSX avec XPlane, (que ce soit sur Power PC ou sur intel) . Pas de problmes de reconnaissance et sans emploi de drivers. Connecter et jouer !
Disponendo gi di un gruppo joystick-manetta della Thrustmaster (il top della produzione, l’Hotas Warthog), mi sono affidato a questo marchio per la pedaliera. Credo sul mercato non ci sia nulla di migliore come rapporto qualit/prezzo; la sua concorrente diretta, la Logitech-Saitek, costa quasi il doppio e, avendola posseduta, non offre nulla di pi. La quinta stella va ad Amazon, che ha sostituito a tempo di record il primo esemplare, risultato difettoso; addirittura ho ricevuto la sostituzione prima del reso.
Prodotto acquistato assieme all’hotas Thrustmaster Warthog. Completa in maniera perfetta il sistema di controller di volo. Il rudder si pu gestire assieme agli altri dispositivi Thrustmaster con il software T.A.R.G.E.T e costituisce l’ecosistema TM. Consente la frenata oltre che il controllo di timone e ruotino.
Sembra semplice e pacchiano ma costruito bene rispetto ai vecchi thrustmaster finalmente hanno migliorato la qualit dei materiali e si attacca bene al pavimento non scivola e in pi ha possibilit di usare i 2 pedali come freni comodit unica. se vogliamo unica pecca che come supporto software per vari giochi non sempre trovi i settaggi precaricati nei giochi ( la fascia media da tante case non viene considerata) ed
un peccato invece logitech si ma ultimamente logitech non pi quella di una volta come qualit.
Cmq ottimo do solo 4 per il supporto software di certi giochi i settaggi precaricati non esistono peccato davvero, cmq a sto prezzo lo ricomprerei cmq volare con tutto il set un altra cosa.
Fantastic flight pedals, work perfectly with both of my sims, P3D V4 and Xplane 11. Plug straight in and Windows 10 recognises them and updates the drivers for you. You just need to configure them in whatever sim your using, and your good to go. Highly recommended for any flight sim person, especially if your wanting to keep cost down abit.
The Pedals are great for precise movement in whatever type of game you are looking to play, I use this mostly in ARMA 3 and Star Citizen, and I can tell you it will make flying more precise, safe and fun! My only 2 issues with it would be the distance you have to sit back, its brilliant at an extended leg distance but the closer you get to your sitting position the harder it is to press and slide the pedals accurately. The other issue being my pedals seem to “turn off” when I shutdown the PC so I have to plug them back in again for my PC to pick them up even after a driver install.
From someone who has been involved in flight simulation for over 15 years, this is my review of this product. All the reviews I have read, state that the pedals are too close together. This is in my experienced opinion rubbish. Let me please explain why. If you drive a manual car, the Brake pedal and clutch pedal are about 5.5 cm apart, and we all manage just fine. Using the clutch and brake at the same time is an important part of driving. These rudder pedals are not too close together at all, in fact the distance between them is perfect. It seems that when some reviewer states something, everybody jumps onto the band wagon and just follows the last review. So to conclude, the feel of these pedals is precise, and very smooth, the distance between them is fine. The value is outstanding. In my humble opinion do not listen to the negative reviews.
Really added another dimension to my flying game. Everything is much harder and more difficult to control, which adds realism.Contol was expensive but I’m glad I forked out for.
Ce palonnier fonctionne trs bien avec le simulateur FlightGear en freeware sous Windows, condition de crer un petit fichier xml dcrivant les trois axes de contrle (ex: T-Rudder.xml), et de rfrencer ce fichier dans “joysticks.xml” en plus du joystick principal.
Review for the
Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS Hotas
Excellent throttle unit and good joystick. Setting up the software, which needs to be downloaded, was a bit of a fuss compared to most other sticks (like the Thrustmaster HOTAS X which is just plug’n’play). But there are plenty of adjustment options in the program, if you need to deal with any key conflicts, repeat speeds, etc that you may get in a particular game.
On the throttle, your index finger is on another analogue joystick. This can be used like a 4-way switch like the other HAT switches, or as a proportional joystick – excellent for vertical/sideways thrust controls in Elite Dangerous!
The main joystick has excellent sensitivity, but I miss having some more buttons on top to be controlled with my thumb.
The throttle unit can be bought separately and (they say) used along side any joystick. If you’ve thinking of buying just the throttle unit to go with, say the Thrustmaster HOTAS, it’s worth noting that the joystick in this set has much better stick movement sensitivity.
Ich habe lange berlegt und mir dann doch einfach mal diese Ruderpedale bestellt und ich muss sagen: Ich mag sie! Sie sind sehr przise, man hat gut Halt darauf, sie sprechen gut an und wenn man sich an die vernderte Steuerung gewhnt hat, mchte man gar nicht mehr ohne sie fliegen.
Was hier immer wieder gesagt wurde stimmt, die Nullstellung ist zu schwammig, auch wenn sie so gerade noch ok ist.. aber da knnte, bzw. msste Thrustmaster einfach eine straffere Feder einbauen und schwupps, das Problem wre Geschichte.
Dennoch bin ich sicher, dass sie mir lange gute Dienste leisten werden.
A decent throttle for the price. The action is smooth once moving but takes a little pressure to get moving which can cause it to “jump” about a centimeter or so. I opened it up and replaced the grease that was on the rails with some dry teflon lube which has made it much much smoother. A shame they couldnt apply a decent grease in the first place so thats why iv given it 4 stars.
Also ich muss sagen fr den Preis wirklich in Ordnung. Habe lange berlegt ob ich sie kaufen soll, und muss sagen ich war positiv berrascht. Ich kann den anderen Rezensionen die, die Qualitt bemngeln und die fehlende Rckmeldung ber die Mittelstellung, wirklich nicht nachvollziehen. Ich muss allerdings dazu sagen das ich die Pedale in erster Linie fr Heli-Sims benutze, wo die Mittelstellung ja nicht ganz so wichtig ist, da man ja sowieso fast immer Pedalausschlag braucht. Ein Stern Abzug wegen der fehlenden Software, man muss sie sich erst downloaden und diese gibts dann nicht mal auf Deutsch, geht aber auch ohne spezielle Software. Einfach anstecken und losfliegen :-). Wrde sie wieder kaufen.
Do un 4 solo per i materiali utilizzati … troppo plasticoso ma nel complesso funziona in maniera eccellente … provvisto di piedini in gomma che non lo fanno spostare di un millimetro durante l’utilizzo. ..per chi ha poco spazio oltretutto ha un ingombro pi contenuto rispetto ad altri rudde
Ottimo prodotto le dimensioni sono contenute ma allo stesso tempo i pedali sono gradi e anche comodi, i rumori e gli attriti sono molto ridotti e il feedback molto buono insomma ottima qualit-prezzo
…(reduziert auf 90) ganz Ok.
Sind meine ersten, kann also keine Vergleiche anstellen. Folgendes kann ich aber sagen:
– Pedalwiderstand nicht anpassbar.
– Fusttze (der hintere Fersenclip) abnehmbar.
– Einfach per USB-Pdel an den PC anschliebar.
Hat man kein Thrustmaster-Joystick oder so (wie ich), kann es trotzdem in Spielen genutzt werden. Die Pedale werden einfach ohne weiteres Zutun als 2. Joystick erkannt. Ruder ist hierbei die X-Achse und Bremsen wird als Y-Achse erkannt. (Nur eine Achse!)
Auf der Webseite von thrustmaster gibt’s ein Kalibirierungstool, aber eigentlich ist alles direkt ohne weiteres Gefumme nutzbar.
Un ottimo prodotto, vale il suo prezzo.
Abbastanza robusto, si adatta a qualsiasi simulatore di volo (DCS, FSX ecc).
Ottimo anche il software di gestione.
Consigliato a tutti i piloti virtuali.
L’azienda Thrustmaster sicuramente al top nella produzione di divice per computer, una garanzia.
Encomiabile, come sempre, anche Amazon.
Sehr przise nutzbar, 3 Achsen linke und rechte Bremse und Ruderpedale laufen sehr sauber und liessen sich ohne Probleme Installieren, nutze diese fr DCS und Elite, gute verarbeitung
Another fantastic product in the budget price range from thrustmaster. The buttons are mostly solid with exception of 3 rubber dome buttons that are a let down but acceptable. The analouge joystick proves to be a reliable input method particularly in space sims however I must complain about its placement. I would much rather prefer if the ministick was placed on the thumb a bit like CH pro throttle (which I own). Furthermore the dial has a lot of resistance which was uncomfortable to use with pinkie but hopefully it is moddable and already after use I see the resistance settling down. As for the precision of the axis; it is incredible, thrustmaster doesn’t compromise when it comes to quality electronics and I believe the z axis has 15 bit resolution (that is 32768 data points). All the other axis are 10 bit which is more than enough. The T.A.R.G.E.T software is very sophisticated and although a little unintuitive at first it can be very powerful in the hands of someone willing to write their own code. One cool possibility is to use the ministick as a hat switch if the game doesn’t support analouge values yet you need extra buttons.
Excellend adition to my flight sim cockpit and the Thrustmaster Warthog Stick & Throttle set.
Fliege IL2 Cliff of Dover und Battle of Stalingrad. Die Rudder sind in dieser Hinscht sehr ntzlich, allein schon beim starten der Flugzeuge.
Am Anfang sehr gewhnungsbedrftig, aber mit der Zeit nicht mehr wegzudenken. Man kann sehr gut und sehr feinfhlig damit umgehen.
Conforme la demande, livr un jour avant la date prvu.
Essay sous X planes 10 ok.
Emballage ok mais on voit ce qui est envoy, il aurait t meilleur d’avoir un film plastique opaque autour du colis afin d’viter les risques de vol.
The pedals are very well lubricated, making them slide easily with precise brake movements. The only thing that makes this 4 star instead of 5 is how close the pedals are together. They’re about 2.5 inches apart which can be quite uncomfortable and unrealistic compared to real airplanes. Overall extremely good for the price and also doubles as pedals for a driving game.
Working fine, easy to install. Sliding mechanism is smooth and free running. Brake pedals also feel smooth. I am using this alongside Saitek Flight Yoke, Throttle and trim wheel with no problems.
Command le 4 aot reu le 10 aot. Livraison ok. Matriel conforme aux attentes, le TRFP tiens ses engagements en terme de qualit et d’efficacit. Bravo thrustmaster de mettre maintenant du matriel de bonne qualit la porte de tous.
Light/Small perfection on rudder pedals.
Configurations give a bit of work…more than expected.
as about sensitivity: its a brilliant product.
I am Super happy with it.
Ich hab eigentlich mit den Saitek pedalen geliebugelt.aber diese sind ja zur hlle nicht mehr zu bekommen, also diese von TM bestellt und ich wurde nicht enttuscht.zwar haben diese keine stellschraube um die leichtgngigkeit zu regulieren aber das macht nix. Dank der alu schienen wackelt und knarzt nichts. Diese sind fr die qualitt eigentlich mut 99 viel zu billig!!!
Visuellement joli, les pieds sont trs rapprochs (comme dans certains vrais hlico) J’avais l’habitude d’un Saitek (ou les pieds sont plus carts) mais un petit cble c’est coup la semaine dernire au bout de 10 mois d’utilisation, je suis un peu du d’ailleurs ! Le Thrumaster est plus souple au niveau le ressort de rappel (beaucoup trop dur dans le Saitec, mme au rglage le plus souple, j’avais fini par l’enlever) Trs facile installer, bonne prcision, bon dbattement, trs bon rapport qualit / prix, 4 toiles parce que le plastique de la base de chaque cts des pdales n’a pas l’air trs costaud. Maintenant il faut voir l’usage…
First complaint is that the seller is selling the product at 10 above the recommended MSRP, but as my Saitek Pro Rudder pedals had just didn’t want to wait as the Amazon site didn’t list an expected delivery date for rudder pedals at the standard MSRP.
However as an initial review after a few hours use I can find little to complain about the pedals themselves.
The pedals have an RSJ 12 Connector for connecting directly to the Thrustmaster T HOTAS 4 along with an RSJ 12 to USB adapter to enable you to connect directly to PC via USB should you want to mix and match to a HOTAS system of your choice.
I am currently using this with a 3 year old Saitek X52 Pro HOTAS with no problems in Elite Dangerous.
First thing to say is that this is the third set of rudder pedals that I have owned. I initially started with a set of Simped rudder pedals which while robust, were too wide for my liking. This was follows with the Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals which lasted me for 3 and a half years until one of the toe break spring mountings gave way with no warning.
Initial impressions of the Thrustmaster pedals are very favorable. Whereas both the Simped and the Saitek pedals needed to be secured somewhat to the floor with the latter secured through Velcro strips on my carpet, the Thrustmaster Rudder Pedals are stable enough on carpet due to the lack of resistance on the pedal sliders with no need for worry about finding a way to secure them further.
The individual pedals each ride on a pair of aluminium rails. Thrustmaster have named the system S.M.A.R.T, Sliding Motion Advanced Rail Tracks. There is just enough resistance for you to gauge the pedal position, without having to worry about the pedals moving on the floor. Furthermore as I use an office chair on castor, I had no issues with the chair itself moving involuntary due to the pedal resistance, a problem I found with both of my previous pedals.
In game, I found them to be accurate and easy to use, with the only problem being that due to the lack of resistance that it was easy to find a little bit of right rudder being applied inadvertently. However I was able to adapt to this and learn to relax my feet in to the center detente on the pedals. It is possible that I could adapt the centre dead-zone with the Thrustmaster TARGET software downloaded from their website, but my initial experience of the software is that it feels very unintuitive to use.
In general though, I have to say this is the best set of rudder pedals that I have used, and even at the 90 pounds that I paid, the cheapest. Certainly from initial impressions, these are the best pedals that I have ever owned, with the feel being just right out of the box.
The pedals also incorporate a toe-break function pivoting through the center of each foot when resting on the whole pedal. I have not been able to test this much at the time of writing, but again I find that the motion is very smooth and fluid with little resistance, without the fear of activating it unbidden. I hope to update this review at a later point after tesing it both on Elite Dangerous on the planetary vehicle, and on Flight Simulator X on Steam.
One thing to finish on is that although the Thrustmaster Pedals come with attached heel rests, there are removable (through a supplied allen key) for any budding pilots who prefer to fly resting their heels on the floor (like real pilots). However while using the pedals using my shoes, the heel-rests never felt uncomfortable to use in this position.
Reu hier aprs-midi, conforme mes attentes, bien conu et bon rapport qualit/prix par rapport d’autres marques qui pour moi abuse , livraison avant la date prvue, emballage convenable mme si un bord du carton tait cras ( le produit n’a rien ) , livr par colis priv. A voir dans la dure.
I will keep this short – I am a long time Flight Simmer and BiPlane Pilot
I bought this to use with my Thrusmaster Warthog Hotas Stick and Throttle and the DCS World Flight Sim.
These are excellent great feel and accurate, very smooth motion.and travel with good quality feel to the unit.
Flying with these make It quite simple to control swing on takeoff even without rudder trim dialed in on the P-51 and also makes it natural to sideslip and use crosswind crab and wing down techniques during approaches.
Cons: bit too easy to find that your inadvertently applying rudder a stronger center intent feel would maybe help feel the natural center while you are busy, typically during landing and pattern work but in a short amount of time you soon get used to it.