Trend DWS/CP8/FC Classic Pro Double-Sided Diamond Sharpening Stone, Fine/Coarse, 8 x 3 inch
Weight: | 948 g |
Size: | 8 Inch x 3 Inch |
Dimensions: | 32.5 x 11.5 x 2.5 cm; 948.01 Grams |
Model: | DWS/CP8/FC |
Part: | DWS/CP8/FC |
Colour: | Silver |
Pack Quantity: | 1 |
Batteries Required: | No |
Batteries Included: | No |
Manufacture: | Trend |
Colour: | Silver |
Quantity: | 1 |
Size: | 8 Inch x 3 Inch |
I use this diamond stone to flatten my Arkansas stones as well as initializing new chisels and plane irons. It arrived in a nice durable cloth case with a rubber mat to set the stone on so it won’t slide during use.
One side is 300 grit and the other 1000. As a sharpening maniac I find the stone to be durable and most importantly FLAT!
Yes, if and when I need another I will buy this one.
I bought this because it was so highly recommended by professionals on YouTube. This is a replacement of the first stone. I was excited to get a hand plane on the stone. The 300 grit side just seemed to grab and I could tell it was really removing metal. When I checked there were deep gouges on the sole of the plane. Turns out the guaranteed flat diamond stone has all 4 corners with really sharp raised points on both sides of the stone and the very edges were also raised so it was dished on both sides. I guess the flatness is only in the middle area of the plate not at the edges and corners. I’ll be contacting the company about the damage to my plane.
When I got the replacement it was WAY different. It was perfectly flat. Edges were chamfered. No problems with the replacement. I would buy this again. I highly recommend this.
I use hand woodworking tools-planes, chisels etc and this stone gets me sharp quickly and back to wood working. Only needs 3-4 strokes and done. I have no issues with it. If you are looking for a highly polished surface then get a 2000 grit stone to lap with after.
Super flat. Works great on my chisels and plane blades
I didnt realize how much of a difference a good diamond stone would make in my sharpening process. I was using a $20 diamond stone then finishing with 2k shapton- 12k shapton- strop. Took FOREVER.. why? Diamond stone wasnt flat 🙁
This one is flat! And works like a gem on all my woodworking tools! I use the 300 side to flatten the shaptons too. Should have bit the bullet on the price sooner!
It works great.
Quality control is lacking, as mine came with a very obvious defect that should have been spotted if a human had ever looked it over.
It has some kind of a burr embedded into the stone, but it scraped off
Seems a little pricey but after using and seeing the results, it will certainly take the place of the multiple paper and glass steps for chisel and plane iron blades. Great product and would recommend for shop blade sharpening
Affilatura rapida ed efficace. La grana 300/1000 quindi non aspettatevi una cosa professionale ma per hobbisti va pi che bene. L’affilatura risulta buona specialmente per legno dolce.
Took me some deep pondering before pulling the trigger on this seemingly luxury item. At this price point I was highly motivated to do a meticulous examination prior to use. I found it flawless. From the little Stanley block to the thick Lie Nielsen bulls and the hand me down / garage sale chisels, I am speeding my way to flat backs and true bevels. This beast will be paying for itself in short order. I’m approaching vintage cutting tools in a new light now. With a few swipes on this diamond I have already returned 4 cheap router bits that I was prepared to replace back to better than acceptable results in minutes. No brainer.
Nice to have the 300 grit on one side and 1000 grit on the other.
Size is large enough to sharpen most tools, and with the rubber pad it does not move around.
This is the stone you absolutely need for chisels and hand plane blades. I used water on it and it left a little rust staining, but the eraser it came with took that right off. Now I mix hone right with my water so it won’t rust.
Nothing to dislike. Well worth the 180$. Pass a steel plate over both sides when you first get it to knock off and diamond that may stick up. Very flat! Pass over any cheaper stone and get this one! 300 grit side can be used to flatten water and oil stones.
It is exactly what I ordered and wanted however, it seems to be shedding (a small amount) of the diamond coating after only one use. I have contacted Trend UK and await a response. As of 24th Jan still have not had the courtesy of a reply from Trend technical or Sales despite sending a reminder. Not happy!
Regarding diamond stones and “rust”: The nickel coating is rust-proof. Synthetic diamonds don’t rust. The problem with rust is the steel particles that come off your blades when sharpening. They lodge in the stone and will rust if left there. You can clean the stone with water and Trend Tool Cleaner and a fine brass brush. Then spray the stone with a light coating of Trend Tool Cleaner(leave it on) and it will prevent rust. You DO NOT need to buy Trend’s expensive lapping fluid. The Tool Cleaner has a rust inhibitor that does the same job. The Tool Cleaner does a great job of both cleaning and inhibiting rust. It is far cheaper than the lapping fluid. The lapping fluid is very high quality, BUT it is not necessary. Any decent honing fluid will work as long as you keep enough of it on the stone to float away the debris. The Tool Cleaner is probably not a good substitute for honing fluid.
Perfecto para el primer afilado de cuchillas de cepillo o formones. Luego es necesario usar una piedra 6-8mil pero se gana mucho tiempo. Recomiendo usarlo con el lquido de la marca Trend especfico para estas piedras de diamante
This diamond stone is awesome I love it. I use it mainly to sharpen my chisels in the shot, but also my pocket knife. I’ve been using wet stones for years now and this is light years easier, cleaner, and overall more efficient.
Product arrive well wrapped and in a useful case.
All as described in the ad and a very fast and effective sharpener.
Although quite expensive it sharpens quickly and save time in the long ru
Have so far used it for sharpening chisels and knives on the recommendation of a couple of popular online woodworkers. So far, so sharp. Durability remains to be seen, but again, advice from the experts suggests that it will last a long time.
Hesitated to buy this, because of the price, but then found it here for less than I had seen it elsewhere. A bargain at the price I paid, and probably well worth the higher prices I’ve seen. Rob Cosman’s woodworking videos on You Tube show this as the foundation of what looks like a great system. It feels like this cuts faster than a less expensive alternative I tried first, but either is a big step up from the cheapoes with a thin metal sheet glued to plastic, like one I bought years ago from Harbor Freight.
Super quick sharping from the industry leading Diamond Stone Company.
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I love it. Been using it and loving it. Good purchase for me.
This “stone” is fantastic. I have no doubt that it will last for many, many years. I had no idea just how quick and easy it is to get wicked sharp blades and chisels.
I suck at sharpening. This makes up for my lack of skill. God its fast. Buy the lapping fluid though. Seriously its good.
This sharpening “stone”, having diamond grit, will last much longer than typical stones, and that alone makes it a great value. Plus, it is thick enough to maintain its flatness throughout its lifetime. I would recommend this product to anyone looking for a truly effective sharpening tool, with possible a higher grit, and strop to get that that razor edge.
convenient size for my work bench. My wallet afforded this size and having used it for many hours this past week on numerous tools, I’m a happy camper.
Only had it for a few weeks, but so far it’s made a significant difference in my sharpening. I’m using the 320 side to flatten my 4000 grit norton stone (1000/4000 combo but only using the 4000 side now). Using the 1000 grit side for primary sharpening and the 4000 for honing, the polishing with a strop. My plane irons and chisels have never been sharper. I don’t worry about the 1000 grit side going out of flat, and the 320 grit side makes flattening the Norton fast and saves me a lot of sandpaper and a big mess. Sharp tools make things a lot easier. This thing takes a lot of the pain out of the sharpening process and that helps things get done right.
And the fine side is plenty fine enough to clean up the deep scratches. It doesn’t leave a mirror finish, but it is dead flat and really aggressive. Chisels and plane blades.
Cuts pretty fast and leaves a nice surface. Very flat.
This stone works quite well. Should be sold with the lapping oil though
I use this simply for plane irons and straight chisels. The plate is wonderful and I pair it with one of the ubiquitous cheap honing guides of the eclipse style a.k.a. side clamping vs top clamping. Worth noting is that I have machined the jaws and bed of the honing guide with a high-quality Bahco file so as to ensure the blade or iron is held securely and square to the abrasive surface. I only mention this because I did not buy the side clamping guide that is sold by Trend. The diamond plate is absolutely top quality in my opinion – the course 300 grit surface is absolutely flat as is the 1000 grit and I use the coarse side to flatten my Shapton glass/ceramic stones and it does a perfect job. The diamond plate is very efficient and does exactly what it should. From the 1000 grit I go straight to the 4000 Shapton glass and then to the 8000 Shapton glass and from there it’s relatively speaking perfect for my needs – very efficient.
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Great stone. Nice and heavy and flat. Works well with the lapping fluid that’s available. I’ve flattened and sharpened chisels on it but I also used it to grind out dings and put an edge back on a kitchen knife. Easy to use and does the job.
It sharpens your knife really well and quick but I would use a normal wet stone with a fine grit to smooth it ou
The stone itself seems to be very good!
Only thing I don’t like is that no storage pouch was included. Both the advertisement here on Amazon and the box it came in state it should have a pouch, but no storage pouch was included.
Check flatness before you use, but all mine have been good. If this is your first stone, get the lapping fluid too.
I have a bunch of busted, nasty, chipped up chisels and it was good for getting them ground down and trued up ( with the use of a veritas sharpening system). Also will ground your whet stones flat with little effort. Saw from a YouTube video to use window cleaner for grinding metal objects (not your whetstone) not sure why but it worked well.
The Trend 300/1000 grit lapping stone arrived quickly. I use it to sharpen my chisels and plane blades and it is excellent. Far better than a couple of other diamond lapping plates I own.
good value worked great now I know what a good sharp blade is
I don’t bother to finish with finer stones, after the 1000 grit. For most finishes a quick strop with leather is perfect.
This is the first diamond plate I’ve ever owned. I went for this solid steel plate over others with composite construction just because it felt like it would be a better investment. My sharpening needs range from woodworking tools to kitchen knives. The plate works well for both.
The coarse side of the plate (300 grit) is good for taking a pretty dull implement back to a well shaped edge. But, if you have serious reshaping to do, you will want something more aggressive (e.g., flattening the backs of new chisels, working notches out of abused kitchen knives). The fine side (1000 grit) is fine enough for my purposes. When sharpening chisels, I follow up with a leather strop and green compound. For kitchen knives, I follow up with a honing steel.
I definitely like the fact that using this diamond plate means I won’t have to fool around keeping a set of sharpening stones flat.
This is slightly larger than the last Trend stone I bought so better in that respect. I’m not sure if I’m using it incorrectly but the last one just didn’t seem to cut any more. This one does cut, as its new. Just not sure how long it will last. I’ve no doubt that its flat.
The two grits – 300 and 1000 make sharpening a short affair. Be sure to use a leather strop with the green polishing compound after sharpening. The stones are on a thick nickel steel plate, are polycrystalline – good – and do their job incredibly well. Make sure you get the Trend stone cleaning compound – works far better than water.
Has very good honing characteristics. Works quicker than the ceramic stones I own. Is good for flattening thos ceramic stones too.
The stone works just great. Just as expected. But the package did NOT include the pouch as listed in the description. Rather than deal with Amazon returns I bought one from another retailer. That added another cost. Stone’s great. Got short changed in the packaging.
I like how you can start the sharpening with 300 grit and then flip the plate and finish with 1000 grit.
Nice heavyweight, flat diamond stone. I think the 300/1000 combination is just fine without having a 600 intermediary step. I broke it in using an old Stanley chisel and windshield cleaner (thanks Paul Sellers). My technique needs improving but this definitely removed the initial diamond crust from the stone and material from the abused chisel. My primary use for the stone will be to sharpen carving gouges so I will be following up with a strop and stropping compound.
James Hamilton of Stumpy Nubs Woodworking recommended this product. That’s all I needed to hear. Works great. All you really need is this diamond stone and a leather strop to sharpen plane blades and chisels. Please note that the instructions state that the stone must be broken in. The 1000 side cuts very agressively until it has been used for awhile (you have to do the same thing with sandpaper).
Excellent stone, padded case, anti-slip pad, cleaner/eraser of excellent quality
Nice and heavy. Cuts nicely. The one I received had a few scratches or flaws in the diamond surface. Also discolored, I’m not sure, but might’ve been repackaged. Cuts well, but honestly, some quality wet/dry paper on a flat surface is just as good. Get the recommended cutting fluid. A few drops per use, it’s not that expensive.
My husband was asking for this for like a year before we finally bought it. He loves it.
Love this sharpening stone. The stone I received is plenty flat for what I will be using it for. Sharpened my woodworking tools to a razor edge very rapidly, faster than my old stones. Haven’t used it a lot yet but from what I have read, it will hold it’s flatness a long time. I will find out how long it will last because this is now my go to stone for my sharpening needs.
A must for tuning and honing chisels and plane blades.
Been wanting a diamond sharpering plate. This one is great. Heavy duty and I mean heavy. Thick plate and has a pad to hold the plate to the bend. Also got the honing fluid and extra cleaner. Cleaning bar look and fells like and pen eraser.
Measured flatness with starett thickness gauge and straight engineering square. Has a very slight curve from end to end measuring 0.009″ (on the 1000 grit side, 300 grit side is totally flat) . It isn’t cupped from left to right at all, so I feel it is perfectly acceptable for sharpening planes and chisels.
It did arrive with three small dents at the outside 2 corners on the 1000 grit side. Other small dings evident, but none of them are on the diamond surfaces, so it shouldn’t affect usage.
Will update review when the weather warms up enough for me to feel comfortable doing anything in the shop. -4F outside, and 39F in the shop. (Measurements taken indoors at a balmy 72F)
I already have sharpened a few things and found the diamond stone works well on other tools like shears and electricians knife. Very impressed so fa
A little pricey but you do get 2 stones in one and it should last for many years. It takes care of my chisels in easy fashion.
Very “hungry” coarse side, and 1000 is just enough to get a very fine “glow”.
Good size for grinding most items.
Never having used Trend, made in China, I don’t know what the service life is going to be. However, the two grits are fine for household or even a camping knife. Add a strop and your 80% there.
Well made and stays always flat. I use it for chisels and kitchen knifes. Doing really good job.
Arrived in a timely manner and works great on my chisels and planer blades
Double sided “stone” eliminates need for more space of one-sided stones. TREND is a well-recommended brand so I don’t expect early deterioration of the diamond chips.
I might have been a bit happier with two separate plates, but this two-sided one is still an excellent product. The 300 grit side removes material extremely fast and with very little effort. The 1000 grit side hones nicely. After a few strokes on a leather strop my planes and chisels are good to go. Some people like to move to higher grits, but this one plate is all I need!
Purchased the 180/600 combination stone recently to use specifically for establishing a bevel and/or flattening chisel and plane iron backs. So far it has exceeded my expectations. Cuts very fast and feels similar
to my Shapton stones in use.
Replacing a DMT coarse/fine combo plate that cut so slow I felt like I was wasting my time on it. The DMT costs about half as much but only works half as well, so the adage of “you get what you pay for” holds true here.
Would have been a 5 Star review except that the plate began to oxidize almost immediately while using water to lubricate it. I refuse to spend money on Trend’s “lapping fluid” so i will have to find a better solution.
A very nice stone, a short break in period on it too
After extensive use: this is a great value stone, I use it to sharpen wood working tools and knives and it’s an excellent addition, it hasn’t worn out or anything of that nature and constantly delivers a good edge with the use of cutting guides. Coupled with sanding paper, total re-profiling of an edge is easy.
Sharpened knives and plane blades the day I received it. Sharp enough to shave with!!
Nuff’ said
Very good quality, best on the marked for that price and above
I have tried many different sharpening stones and less expensive diamond sharpeners. Time is money and this pays for itself in short order!
Used as the first step
to sharpen plane blades chisels and knives and the course side to true up waterstones. The instructions that accompany it are poor they are more of a promotion for other Trend products and for eg make no reference to the cleaning rubber that accompanys the stone. Aside from the cost I am happy with this product.
This is a good plate. If you have no others at all, start here and you’ll get the most bang for your buck. The performance is very good.
I have DMT, Trend, and Atoma plates, more than10 between the brands and the grits. The trend plate cuts the fastest, hands down. As somebody that has different types, I’ll go so far as briefly explaining the differences that I see between them all. They are also advertised as having the most flatness of any of my diamond plates. Would I buy it again, yes. Having all of the different plates and if I could do it over again, I’d buy two different trend plates and then just move onward to my Shapton water stones. It would have saved a lot of money and I’d have still been happy with the results. I always follow water stones anyway. Be absolutely sure to use a rubber plate/stone holder to keep it in place and prevent the under-side from getting marred if you buy a double-sided plate.
The gee-whiz comparison:
The Trend is the fastest cutting plate that I have. It also has a consistent in the scratch pattern for the 300 grit side. Because it’s double-sided, I didn’t need to purchase two separate plates, less weight. The rest of my diamond plates are single surface and let me tell you, the entire collection is heavy. When using lubricating fluid, they work well. I don’t have to apply fluid as much as I do with Atomas. Metal waste clears easily. These feel solid like DMT and overall best value. Could buy two different plates and get four grits. Best value.
The DMT is a nice piece of steel, but the diamonds seem to fracture much more frequently and leave rogue scratches that are harder to work out. The DMT seem a tiny bit more susceptible to rust with a very faint reddish hue, even after using rust inhibitor in the lubricating fluid (hone right) and taking care to dry them with lint-free cloth as much as possible. When using lubricating fluid, The DMTs require the least amount of fluid and the metal waste clears easily. These feel the most dense and rugged of all.
The Atomas are my favorite when I want a beautiful polished surface. With just a tiny bit more pressure, I can get mirrored finishes and the most uniformed scratch pattern of all. The plate is aluminum and the diamond plate substrate is steel, adhered to the aluminum plate. Atomas cut smoother and even though they are rated at 400, 600, 800, 1200, they actually feel like 600, 1000, 1500, 2000. I have to use lots of fluid continually as the metal slurry builds or the plate will dry and the tool will slightly stick. The steel substrate will gouge and scratch if you are abusive (I tested on one). The aluminum corners and base will ding and slightly bend if you drop it hard enough (tested too). These are lightest of all.
If the steel is beat-up, I go to the DMT plates. If the steel is clean, I go straight to the Trend first because it’s the fastest. If I need just the most gengle of touch-up work, I use Atoma. If I am putting a very good cutting edge, I then step through the shapton water stones up to 16000–depending on the tool–and will even finish on a stop that’s equivalent to about 30,000 grit.
This is the first and only diamond stone that I’ve owned and I like this one and consider it a good purchase. I’ve also used water stones, fine India, and Arkansas stones. I’ll continue to use them all for different applications, but for flattening and getting a good primary edge, this is excellent. I found that many of my chisels had the same pattern on them when I started backing them off, so probably one of my other stones was not flat when I was doing that. I can’t measure the flatness, but from what I can see, these things are more perfectly flat than anything else I have. The 300 side does cut fast, but it’s not overly aggressive like a course carborundum or something like that. And I’d also say that the 1000 isn’t quite as fine as I’d say a water stone of the same grit is. I really like the combination, but it might be a little different from what you’re used to if you’re just comparing grits.
Worth the extra money. This thing is far super to any other stone I’ve owned.
Finally, sharp knives! It would be nice if it came with an instruction book, but we made do by looking up youtube videos.
Great plate that was dead flat and came with all advertised materials. Pouch, slip resistant mat, cleaning block. Spent an hour or so flattening, sharpening and then stropping every one of my chisels, plane blades and pocket knives. Even a few kitchen knives. Combination of 300/1000 is perfect for getting an edge free of nicks and flat, then a few minutes on the 1000 to create a useable edge. Paired with a finer grit stone and a strop gets razor sharp results. I was on the water stone band wagon for a while, but the durability of the metal plates and the consistency of flatness really changed my mind. After a few long uses the 300 may wear a little to a 350 – 400 grit and the 1000 to 1250 or 1500, but it still works perfectly fine. I’m a carpenter for my work and I prefer this product!
The Trend diamond plate is the most recent addition to my collection of diamond plates. To date I have used the Trend plate exclusively for flattening the backs of bench chisels and plane irons. The plate preformed exactly as advertised; it cut quickly and left my chisels and irons dead flat. While it shouldn’t a surprise the difference a truly flat back makes, I was indeed pleasantly surprised at the improved performance of my planes. I finish my bevels with a 13,000 grit Sigma stone which provides a good sharp edge to cutting tools; but flattening with the Trend has made a noticeable difference in performance. I would give the Trend 5 stars (and this might be just me) but the plate seems to be more prone to rust than the DMT plates if not thoroughly dried after use.
Excellent diamond stone! I have used it for a month now on plane blades, chisels and kitchen knives. I use soapy water as a lapping fluid with great results. Just need to ensure the stone is completely dry before storing it as it will rust. Not sure how long this diamond stone will last but I would buy another.
This combinded with a stropping block and you will have some seriously razor sharp knives! I was a bit disappointed in this thing until my strop came in. I took my couple knives I sharpened with this and ran them across the strop and they were razor sharp. Very important to use both.
Only have one word. Awesome. Handy. Sharpens edges. Okay multiple words.
Great sharpening stone. Dead flat. The 300 grit side is great for flattening water stones. The 1000 grit side is great for sharpening a wide variety of tools and knives. I would recommend a 8000 grit stone for final honing.
Mine was not perfectly flat, however the stone does cut well. I could not bring myself to purchase the exorbitantly priced lapping fluid they recommend, however after a lot of trial and error I found that concentrated Simple Green not diluted with water works very well and the stone does not rust at all. Hopefully that will help someone else out.
The pictures illustrate the hump in the middle of the 1000 grit side, with a corresponding depression on the 300 grit side. I used the stone dry to stage the picture to illustrate the point.
Works very well. Initial prep of the stone should be done prior to first use. If you have an old plane blade or a junk chisel, then use that first before your expensive tools that will be used on the stone. In one of Rob Cosman’s videos he says that the initial prep will get rid of any loose diamond stones. It doesn’t take long, just a few passes over the 300 and 1000 grit sides. I am using honerite to prevent rust but I do wipe the stone off after each use to ensure there is not excess moisture that would cause rust.
You can get a good edge on chisels , but this is the second one as the first one peeled , so I will see how it go
Excellent for keeping chisels and plane irons very sharp. Still use finer grits for polishing.
First one was warped out of the box about 5 mils, similar to some other reviews have noted. Called Trend who were very responsive and agreed the plate should be dead flat. They offered to replace it, but I opted to return to Amazon for replacement. Amazon return process was very good. Second one I received was dead flat and is working well. Four stars because a bit of a pain to get a good one. But both Trend and Amazon were quite responsive to get the issue resolved.
Great for roughing blades, use Trend Lapping fluid with it.
I use it to sharpen woodworking tools and flatten my shapton water stones, works wonderfully
work like a charm. courser than advertised during first few uses, then the grit goes to where expected.
excellent product ! sharpened my first plane blade with it and then flattened my 8,000 grit stone with it and got beautiful ribbons of shaving on oak
Oh yes! I bought this and the Trend DWS/LF/100 3.4 FL OZ lapping fluid. This is really what you want. I also have the DVD of James ___ demonstrating this stone. (He is the distributor of this in the US.) Light pressure works better. My first project was to tune a cheapy Buck block plane. I had mostly done that already on wet/dry on glass. But I thought I would touch it up. It definitely improved it. Then on to the blade. I had sharpened it once on wet/dry but then hit a hidden finish nail with it. Not once, but over and over before I realized it was not a knot. Poo. (Pooh?)
So thanks to the nail, I had a LOT to take off. I have a honing guide (spent a pretty penny for it, too) but chose instead to free-hand it. It turns out to be quite easy once you get a feel for it. So an hour later on 300, and about 5 minutes on 1000, and that booger was SHARP. I wound up using it a few days later on a door I was restoring, and it cut like butter. Wow!!!
The next evening I tackled an Irwin Marple 2″ chisel I bought on Amazon. It took A TON of work to true the back and the bevel. More on that when I review the chisel. But again, an hour+ (listening to FWW shoptalk live podcasts) on the 300 on the back, and 30 minutes on the bevel, and I cut myself wiping it a bit carelessly. But it was not yet sharp, so I then spent a few minutes each on the 1000. It was razor sharp! Wow! It cut paper like the DVDs show. I will never go back to wet/dry now for sharpening. I will still use it for major truing at the coarser grits. But not any of the sharpening.
Very high quality, super uniform scratch pattern. 300 grit side needs frequent cleaning with the included eraser, which is all that keeps this from a 5-star rating.
his stone is awsome., the company deliverey it quickly , with no problems.thank you.
Now this is great! Very flat and being monocrystalline it is a better product.
Now this is great! Very flat and being monocrystalline it is a better product.
This diamond stone seems to me to be much better than the dmt stones that I have purchased in the past. It cuts pretty fast and seems to have more diamond particles per inch.
A two sided diamond stone offering both 300 and 1000 grits that’s flat to +/-0.0005-Inch, what’s not to like?
Frankly, if you own any fast-wearing water stones you’re doing yourself a disservice if you don’t flatten them after each sharpening. The problem is, most flattening/lapping stones are either too expensive or not flat enough. Enter the Trend DWS/CP8/FC. I use the 300 grit side to ensure the flatness of all but the finest of my water stones prior to use, and with a tolerance of +/-0.0005-Inch I’m confident that when I’m done my stones will be wicked flat. I reserve the 1000 grit for my 8000 and 16,000 grit stones.
Overall, I couldn’t be happier (thank you Rob Cosman for the suggestion)
Good mix of 300 for material removal and 1000 for polishing — I also use a 500/600 in between as just the 1000 can take a long time to remove the grind marks from 300.
This Diamond Bench Stone is a joy to use and gives incredible results with the minimum of effort. I find myself using it even when I don’t really need to, just for the enjoyment, sad but true! Used in conjunction with the Trend Lapping fluid, it should last a lifetime. I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend this stone to anyone
The title should really be ‘I thought I’d treat myself’ because this is not a cheap sharpening solution. It’s a precision engineered tool with a price to match.
I’ve got DMT diafold sharpening tools but I wanted to try something bigger for the kitchen knives. I like the idea of a traditional whetstone but also wanted something made in the uk (for reasons I won’t bore you with). Since Trend apparently manufacture this in the UK it seemed like a good choice.
I’m using it exclusively for kitchen knives at the moment. On first using it was extremely rough and not particularly useful on both sides but according to the box this is a bedding in period, and this has proved to be the case. I’m only using the fine side and it sharpens quickly and effectively. After around 6 uses I am able to achieve an edge that catches your finger as you run it along it, and cuts paper easily. With more practice I anticipate even better results. The key difference with traditional stones is that you only have to apply very light pressure and it genuinely does seem to work on many fewer strokes. I like the fact that it’s solid diamond because I’ve never seen the point in those holes you find on most diamond stones. I know it’s to catch swarf but I also suspect it’s to save money.
Some minor quibbles. The plastic pouch it comes with had split straight out of the box – thin plastic vs. diamond coated nickel and steel is really no contest. I might make a wooden case and at least I can sharpen the chisels afterwards.
Trend do say it can be used with water if necessary but then elsewhere on the internet advise that this can cause damage. They also advise using their lapping fluid. Some say it’s expensive but my issue with it is that it’s toxic to some extent and I don’t want it near my chopping board. Water (possible damage aside) did work to some degree but I have found baby oil to be much more effective. There is something called honing oil that in some cases is kitchen safe so I might try that next.
It’s interesting to compare the grits with other diamond stones – DMT consider 600 to be ‘fine’ but Trend call 1000 fine. Seems to work anyway.
So I would prefer this to work well with water like the DMTs but overall it seems like a quality product.
Make sure to use the Trend honing liquid to get best results and maintain your warranty. Having had it only for a few weeks, I can’t speak to how long it will last. My advice, as for all diamond “stones”, is to use light pressure and let the diamonds do the work. Wipe it clean after use.
Before this I used sand paper and thick plate glass to sharpen turning tools (the Mike Dunbar method in FWW), bench chisels, carving gouges, and plane irons. While it is pricey, it should be the last stone that you will ever need. The instructions say that 10 to 15 minutes of sharpening with an Arkansas stone is reduced to 10 to 20 seconds on the diamond stone. I agree! I still recomend a quality honing guide for bench chisels and plane irons. One side has 300 grit and the other side has 1000 grit. I have found no easier way to sharpen tools in my 25 years of wood working.
I’ve been using this stone for about a month and a half now. It is very flat and does a reasonable job of flattening my waterstones, which is the main reason I purchased it. The diamond grit was originally very aggressive, but it quickly wears in to being much slower on the cuts. Using just water on this thing (since I was flattening waterstones) was causing minor rust spots to appear, so I ordered some HoneRite Gold additive and it fixed the problem. My only real complaint is that on the coarse side the diamonds appear to have worn off completely about 1/4″ from the two smaller edges (the middle of the stone is still uniformly coated). Thankfully, this doesn’t seem to have affected my stone flattening procedure, but the wear is disappointing given the small time I’ve owned this thing.
This sharpening stone works great! Being 8″x3″ it is the perfect size for sharpening plane blades and chisels. I achieved very sharp edges on my chisels and plane blades and was able to flatten the backs of my blades. I like that it has two sides so I only have one stone to deal with instead of two. I also like that it is monocrystalline instead of polycrystalline; monocrystaline sharpens more efficiently and lasts longer.
One side is 300 grit and the other side is 1000 grit. These are marked clearly on each side. Only the 300 grit side has the clearance channels. At the time of this review, the photo advertised here in Amazon is not correct since it shows clearance channels on a 1000 grit stone. These channels are very effective for keeping the lapping fluid evenly distributed on the surface and also clear out some of the metal shavings. The 1000 grit side does not have these channels. I wish it did since it really helps a lot. I find the channels on this Trend stone to be much better than the holes used on DMT stones. While a knife point can still occasionally hang up in these channels, the point will have more tendency to skip over it rather than catching hard like on the edges of the holes on a DMT stone. I sharpened two pocket knives on this stone and only had the knife point hang up once. The channels on the Trend stone also take up less space on the stone, thereby allowing for more diamond cutting surface, unlike the DMT stones where the many big holes leave very little cutting surface left. DMT does have steel plate stones very similar to these Trend stones, but DMT currently does not offer any clearance holes or channels on them.
I only used a general purpose household cleaner in a spray bottle as the lubrication. The soapy solution works well as a lubricant and is easy to clean up; it is also very cost effective. Don’t’ use bathroom cleaners since those can be corrosive if left on metal for too long.
Once broken in, my knife and blade edges came out very smooth and sharp.
I posted a photo of one of the bad chisels I flattened with this stone.
Diamond sharpening stones do require a break in period. The courser the stone, the less time it takes to break in (because there are fewer diamonds to break in on a course stone). When first pulled out of the package, this Trend stone is very rough. I grabbed one of my low quality chisels and started working on it to improve the chisel and break in the stone. The 300 grit side broke-in within about 30 minutes of working this one chisel (the chisel was in really bad shape and would have sharpened quicker if I used an extra course stone). The 1000 grit took about 2.5 to 3 hours of sharpening time with a few different chisels and knives before it broke in. Some people expect the stone to be broke-in right out of the box; however, with a stone that will last for several years, I don’t have a problem spending a few hours breaking it in.
The pouch it comes with is well made and very handy to have.
It also comes with what they call a cleaning block. This item seems to be nothing more than a big pencil eraser. But it is nice they included it. It also comes with a non-slip pad: this is also something you can buy in a home store that is used as liners in drawer bottoms, but again it is very nice they included it.
Overall, I am very pleased with the performance of this stone. I highly recommend that if you are looking to get a diamond stone, this one will not disappoint as it is high quality and sharpens wonderfully – far better than sand stones.
Updated information:
I have also used the DMT diamond stones. I find the trend stones to be far more quality made than DMT. The Trend stone has a more uniform coating of diamonds and the metal block has squared edges instead of slightly rounded edges. The Trend also does not seem to clog as easily as the DMT. The DMT stones also seem to lose diamonds much easier than the Trend. I also believe the Trend is a flatter stone after I attempted to flatten a few plane blades. Therefore, as a side by side comparison, I put Trend stones well above the DMT stones.