Furbo 360° Dog Camera: [New 2022] Rotating 360° View

Furbo 360° Dog Camera: [New 2022] Rotating 360° View Wide-Angle Pet Camera with Treat Tossing, Colour Night Vision, 1080p HD Pan, 2-Way Audio, Barking Alerts, WiFi, Designed for Dogs


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Works with Alexa

Furbo 360° provides additional ways to keep your dog safe and happy via voice control. Alleviate your dog’s separation anxiety by scheduling treat tossing with Alexa.

Used by Vets & Trainers

Furbo works with certified vets and trainers, including celebrity trainer Zak George, to make sure that Furbo Dog Cameras can keep all dogs safe and happy.

Furbo For Good

At Furbo, we believe all dogs deserve a loving home. In partnership with Wags and Walks, every Furbo Dog Camera purchase helps a rescued dog with food, healthcare, and training. Join us in making a difference in pets’ lives around the world.



Weight: 1.06 kg
Dimensions: 13.3 x 12.5 x 23.3 cm; 1.06 Kilograms
Model: Furbo3
Pack Quantity: 1
Batteries Required: No
Batteries Included: No
Manufacture: Tomofun
Dimensions: 13.3 x 12.5 x 23.3 cm; 1.06 Kilograms
Quantity: 1

72 Responses

  1. WaynePakcys says:

     United Kingdom

    The set up was extremely straightforward. It comes complete with charging cable, plug and a leaflet for initial set up. Then you need to download the app and simply follow the instructions.
    I was offered one month free for the “Dog Nanny” subscription, which I have taken up to try out the premium features and work out whether I will need these in the future. These include a barking alert, a 15 second highlight of the day, a person alert, a dog alert barking; activity alerts; a selfie and cloud recording.
    I am really pleased with the quality of the camera both day and night vision and the panning capability. Another feature which is really useful if being able to use the microphone button to talk to my dog.
    The treat tosser is a great feature although I have to admit my dog doesn’t get that many treats. She understood how it worked pretty quickly.
    The design is sleek and modern and will fit in on any surfaces. I have chosen to site it on a kitchen worktop.
    It is a bit on the expensive side and I’m unsure yet whether paying a monthly subscription will be necessary. However, it has some excellent features and certainly gives me peace of mind.

  2. Joe Donovan says:

     United Kingdom

    Golden Review Award: 3 From Our UsersI’ve always had a camera so I can check on my dog , however my old one didn’t allow 2 users to log in to check on her, as me and my partner like to be able to check on her. With this in mind I started searching for a new one that allowed this, and this camera allows 2 people to view at the exact same time with ease. At first I was a bit put off with the price as it was 5 times more expensive than previous cameras I’ve bought , however I decided to give it a go , and I’m so glad I did ! My dog slipped a disk on Christmas Day which left her with some long term health issues , she’s rarely left alone for long but when she is I have the piece of mind that I can check on her with an excellent picture , I love the tracking feature as when ever I log on I know the camera will be pointing at my dog , with my old one I had to pan around the room looking for her. It alerts me to her movements and when she barks which is useful. With the placement of this camera I also have no blind spots which I’ve had with previous cameras , so I know no matter where she is I will be able to see her. The speaker quality is excellent and I loved that I can record my voice so when I throw her a treat it’s my own recording. Yes a lot of the features are part of a subscription, I got 1 month free then the next 3 months for a deal , however I think I will keep up the subscription as I enjoy all the extra features to ensure my precious dog is safe. If you love your pet and can afford this camera I say go for it !

  3. MaricelG61 says:

     United Kingdom

    I think this looks good and is functional. Mine keeps logging out when I use my phone so have to reload. Unfort it hasn’t stopped my Cavapoo’s seperation anxiety yet. The treats do distract her from howling momentarily. Need to experiment more.

  4. Charlie Sweatpants says:

     Canada

    Excellent for keeping an eye on my dog when I am not at home

  5. Anonymous says:

     United Kingdom

    Golden Review Award: 3 From Our UsersFurbo is not for dogs only!!!! My cat love him and when I am at work I can see what he is doing.

    Is amazing device connected with my iPhone, cmara resolution is great, 360 degrees degree, alerts and selfies.

    Do not hesitate is fantastic. Motek like it he can hear me and the treats size are perfect to send some love.

    #MotekUK

    5.0 out of 5 stars Furbo is not only for dogs, My Cat Love him

  6. AthenaDailey says:

     United Kingdom

    Golden Review Award: 10 From Our UsersMy 6-month-old puppy, which I’m raising on my own, was not happy being left alone in the daytime. She would go crazy. I could leave her with a chew or a kong but that would last at most 10 minutes. I needed to leave her alone for an hour or two at a time.

    This is a great device that allows me to leave her alone with confidence. The treat firing ability works really well with the 0.5cm treats I use. It will fire anywhere from 1-5 treats at once, which as long as I don’t fire them out too regularly is okay. I aim the treats to be fired on her bed, so when they fire she has a snuffle around for a few mins to find them. I have used this treat firing to create a positive association for her to be left alone. Now if I leave the room, she instantly goes and looks at the camera waiting for a treat. She basically stares at the camera most of the time I’m out. It is her God. She still doesn’t love being left alone (as you would not expect a young puppy to), but at least she is quiet and calm. The camera is good quality for a live camera and is perfectly good enough to see what she’s up to. The only negative i could really say is i have had two or three times when the treats have not fired as they got jammed in the mechanism. This is obviously not ideal, but hasn’t happened often enough for it to be a huge problem.

    There are quite a few features in the app, and there is a subscription mode that offers some interesting features like saving clips of what your dog gets up to throughout the day. I found I didn’t need any of that. The camera does have a mic so you can hear what’s going on which is useful. You can also speak to your dog, but presumably, because my voice is not coming from me, the most reaction I get when trying to give commands or even say her name is a slightly bemused head tilt.

    I would say if you’re looking for a solution to leave your dog alone then this is an absolute life-saving bit of kit.

  7. Anonymous says:

     United Kingdom

    Excellent device, gives peace of mind in terms of letting us see what our dog is getting up to when we’re away.
    Customer support is exemplary, first device developed a fault within 12 hours and a new one was sent immediately. The new unit has been faultless.

  8. JeevaBeard says:

     Canada

    We love it and so does our dog when she hears the squeaky noise she knows she’s going to get a treat so she’s right there waiting for i

  9. LeopoldKeyser says:

     United States

    I just love this. My dog git used to it very easily and the camera gives me peace if mind, plus I can interact with my fur baby. Just love i

  10. aly7 says:

     United States

    We love this to monitor our pups when we aren’t home. After getting hand me down cameras from other people, that also requires us to mess with our internet and still didn’t work!!! The Furbo is a godsend, and we absolutely love it.

  11. ChaseDegraves says:

     Canada

    Nice to see how your dog is when you start giving them more freedom from the crate ! Piece of mind

  12. the Muse says:

     United States

    I got this for my daughter for her new puppy. It is worth every penny. The picture is perfect. She gets an alert on her phone when the dog is barking, can talk to him, AND even throw him a treat. Definitely recommend to everyone.

  13. CarmenDamron says:

     United States

    Purchased for daughter who has 3 dogs. She said that it works great and is easy to use.

  14. Anonymous says:

     United States

    The night vision on the furbo 360 is awesome, better than any home security camera we’ve tried!

  15. Jenelle Cooper says:

     Italy

    Con questa telecamera i miei cani si divertono molto. Oltre ad avere una visione perfetta rileva l’abbaio e il movimento del cane. Il top il lancio dei croccantini i miei cani hanno gradito.

  16. SunnyRadcliffe says:

     United Kingdom

    Golden Review Award: 2 From Our UsersI’ve owned a furbo since furbo one was created and I love being able to throw my boys a treat when I’m at work. The furbo has eased my worries when my older boys got ill I could look in on them and with the new furbo nanny that’s got even better my old furbo still works but the camera quality isn’t as good as the new 360 plus it was on sale so the boys got a new furbo it’s a great little machine.

  17. TonyJacobson says:

     United Kingdom

    Bought as a gift for my hubby who has always loved our dogs. Thought it would be a gimmick. It arguably probably is – but it’s a gimmick that we all love! Love checking in on the dogs, love giving them treats and always look forward to our doggy highlights!

  18. Anonymous says:

     Germany

    Golden Review Award: 3 From Our UsersHtte ich nie gedacht: in 2 min aktiviert. Als Ankndigung fr Leckerlies kann man seine eigene Stimme aufnehmen. Den Standart Ton fanden die Hunde nervig. Nach 20 min testen wissen meine Hunde wie es funktioniert. Fahre morgen beruhigt ins Bro. Coole Idee!!

  19. Anonymous says:

     United Kingdom

    It’s a great indoor camera to be closer to my dog , I can see what she’s doing and gives me piece of mind when I’m away for work . I can also keep her active and interested finding the treats I can dispense to her with my mobile phone!!
    Ita an amazing help for dogs owner I will recommend Furbo to everyone!!!!!

  20. Lance Cartelli says:

     Germany

    Funktioniert einwandfrei.
    Die 360 Funktion ist super, um den gesamten Raum im Blick zu haben.
    Ton und Bildqualitt sind sehr gut.
    Kann die Kamera nur empfehlen.

  21. MeaganNugh says:

     United States

    I had one of the original Furbos and decided to upgrade when this one was on sale. Totally worth it!! The image is super clear and I like being able to move the camera around to see where my dogs are. Definitely recommend getting it if you’re on the fence!!

  22. OVECandrazyuan says:

     United States

    We bought this for our son and granddaughter for Christmas. They both love this camera, if their puppy is whining, they talk to him and calms him down. Great gift…..

  23. Anonymous says:

     United States

    I bought this pet camera to keep an eye on my puppy while we were training her to get used to being home alone. It’s definitely worth the price. I love all the functions and feel comfortable with my puppy being home alone since I can watch her any time on my phone.

  24. Anonymous says:

     France

    Golden Review Award: 2 From Our UsersLa camra Furbo est plutt trs bien dans l’ensemble. a me permet d’tre rassure lorsque je ne suis pas la maison. La fonction pour lancer des friandises est top pour amuser mon chien mme distance. Cependant, la qualit de l’image n’est parfois pas trs bonne.

  25. Anonymous says:

     United States

    Golden Review Award: 2 From Our Users

    Great for new puppy

  26. Anonymous says:

     United States

    Great purchase

  27. Bill Thomas says:

     Australia

    Very easy to use, love being able to check on my furbaby when I’m not there and sometime when I am…. she loves it too, wish I’d bought one sooner, might look at getting more for other rooms 🙂

    Very easy to use, love being able to check on my furbaby when I'm not there and sometime when I am.... she loves it too, wish I'd bought one sooner, might look at getting more for other rooms :)

  28. Anonymous says:

     United States

    The best of all the dogs cameras I ever had.

  29. Anonymous says:

     Germany

    Was mir sehr gut gefllt, ist die Zoomfunktion und den Leckerliauswurf! Hat natrlich auch noch mehr individuelle Funktionen, aber die nutze ich eigentlich nie. Den Preis finde ich dennoch etwas berzogen, aber im groen und ganzen ein tolles Produkt, kann ich nur weiterempfehle

  30. DJ Pizzo says:

     Spai

    Movimiento

  31. Monisha Ravisetti says:

     United States

    Golden Review Award: 2 From Our UsersI got this because my boyfriend was always worried about how the dog was doing when we were out for an extended period of time. This is a GREAT solution and it’s super fun! Now BF doesn’t worry as much which makes my time w him better AND his 2 yr old Golden Retriever loves it too, GET IT!

  32. EmersonPerron says:

     United States

    Gifted, opened, and operational SAME DAY! Works exactly as described. Recipients LOVED this!

  33. Sara Kay says:

     Germany

    Unser Furbo hat sowohl meinen skeptischen Mann als auch den Hund berzeugt. Die Tipps, den Hund mit dem Gert vertraut zu machen sind sehr hilfreich und bringen selbst einen ngstlichen Hund dazu, sich zu freuen, sobald das Gerusch fr den Leckerlie-Wurf ertnt.

    Einziger Nachteil des Gerts: sobald das Tier aus dem Sensor verschwindet, dreht die Kamera sich ein und berwacht den Raum nicht mehr sorgfltig.

    Im Groen und Ganzen empfehlen wir die Kamera wrmstens weiter und wrden sie immer wieder kaufen.

  34. StephanBatson says:

     United States

    This unit is so much fun! I love interacting with my dogs while I’m away. It didn’t take them long to learn to come to the Furbo when they hear my voice over the unit!

  35. monique says:

     United States

    I wish it had a physical on off button. Watching my pup while I’m away is good..I think.

  36. FranFranklyn says:

     United States

    Golden Review Award: 8 From Our UsersSet up is super easy. Picture quality is great. I am able to confirm that my dog is not causing problems in my apartment complex. Plus I can check in on him . I recommend this to any pet owner who worries about their “baby” while away from home.

  37. Lawrence Ham says:

     United States

    Golden Review Award: 2 From Our UsersI love my Furbo 360!!!! I can be with my little pup while I’m away from home. It send me notifications when my pup is active and I’m able to send treat to her . The quality of the video is really good.

  38. LindseyRimmer says:

     United States

    Golden Review Award: 8 From Our UsersThe visuals from this device, especially its nigh vision, are astonishing. I love how it also serves as a security camera because of the great imagery. My dogs are not crazy about the sound it makes when treats are released, but I love the voyeurism opportunities to see what they are up to when I’m not home. Connecting to the app is quite easy. The only negative is really not about the product, but the notifications can be a bit too much if your dog becomes too active. I highly recommend this product.

  39. Anonymous says:

     United Kingdom

    Golden Review Award: 2 From Our UsersFantastic product so pleased with it, exceeded all expectations. Easy set up, get wide angle picture, 2 people can be set up to watch, can talk to the dogs and they love getting the treats!! Husband initially sceptical but he loves it now!! Great to be able to see what the puppies are up to. Highly recommend

  40. Anonymous says:

     Canada

    It’s been a great way to keep connected to my fur baby while traveling for work.

  41. Confessions Of A SAHM says:

     United States

    Golden Review Award: 6 From Our UsersI don’t know why I waited so long to buy one of these–it’s amazing. My pup is going to be 4 soon and I love having the Furbo for her on days that my husband and I aren’t home. It’s so easy to use and makes me feel better that I can check on her when I’m not there. I didn’t even realize it had night vision until recently! The picture is awesome and it’s so easy to use. Highly recommend to any pet owner!

  42. Anonymous says:

     United States

    Golden Review Award: 20 From Our UsersI debated on purchasing a furbo for a while, as I have cats. I decided to try it out and am so happy I did. It is such a great purchase! I love being able to check on my cats when I am at work or away. I love the voice feature which allows them to hear my voice. They are obsessed with the treat function so much that I had to move it to a different spot because they get so excited they want to knock it off. The night camera vision is perfectly clear and I can easily track their movements. If you have any doubt whether to purchase a furbo, take the leap and buy it! You will be so happy you did!

  43. Jennifer Bisset says:

     United States

    Golden Review Award: 2 From Our UsersLatency time for the app and camera is very slow. Takes several seconds for the app to open and another several seconds for the camera to connect. The camera and treat dispenser work relatively well once you’re beyond that.

  44. LucioFelix says:

     Australia

    I bought this product as i have a new puppy and i wanted to know how things were going with my older dog when i was away from home. This Furbo is the best thing Iv ever bought. The 360 o camera is brilliant, and the picture quality depends on your internet speed. but all round i love it. im going to buy a second one. money well spent for peace of mind !

  45. Anonymous says:

     United States

    Gives me piece of mind being able to watch my fur babies when we are away at work.

  46. WarnerKilfoyle says:

     Germany

    Bis jetzt bin ich damit absolut zufrieden. Macht was es verspricht. Klare Kaufempfehlung!

  47. Anonymous says:

     United States

    I have cats and this works great for them too! they enjoy the treat dispenser!

  48. Anonymous says:

     Germany

    Golden Review Award: 9 From Our UsersNach 2 Tagen Eingewhnung haben die Katzen auch raus, wo Stimme und Lekkerlis herkommen.
    Bell oder Jaul-Alarm sind jetzt nicht so effektiv, aber es reicht allemale um ein Nein zu brllen wenn die Jungs wieder die Bude auseinandernehmen.

  49. Anonymous says:

     United States

    Love that I can move the camera, administer treats, or talk to my pups while away. This is a game changer for working pet parents. Also, my dogs LOVE it.

  50. Anonymous says:

     United States 🇺🇸

    Works great so far. Connects over Wi-Fi and cellular networks. Slight delays when turning the camera around but that’s expected over cellular networks. Automatic detection system has been on point so far… Awesome little gadget!

  51. VelmaBallard says:

     United States 🇺🇸

    I love that I can see what my dog is doing while I’m away. I also enjoy that, if I choose, I can toss him a treat to enjoy. I’m very glad that I purchased this item!

  52. WarnerKilfoyle says:

     United States 🇺🇸

    Love the Furbo! Great video and overall product! Recently having issues with connecting to Furbo while at work. I also have the Ring security system and can connect to the cameras, so know it’s not the internet connection. Thank You, Karl

  53. Anonymous says:

     United States 🇺🇸

    We travel a lot and this has been such a great tool to be able to see my dog and give her treats while we are gone. Our dog loves hearing the squeaky sound it makes because she knows what is coming her way. It also gives me peace of mind to be able to see her while we are gone The Mother Hubbard small reward treats fit perfectly and my dog loves them. Highly recommend this product!

  54. Anonymous says:

     United States 🇺🇸

    We left our three cats at home when we went on vacation and had someone come in to feed them twice a day. This was so wonderful to be able to talk to them, give them treats and stuff while we were away. The camera isn’t the best quality, and it definitely has a bit of a lag. But it has worked really well for our family and whenever we leave the cats at home. It’s also great to check on them during the day when I’m at work! One kind of annoying thing about the app is it says “your dog is barking” lol all the time if it hears any noises. We don’t have dogs but maybe it would be helpful if you did!

  55. Anonymous says:

     Germany 🇩🇪

    Leider funktioniert die Farbnachtsicht nicht wie deklariert, trotz das im Rum leichte Lichtverhltnisse herrschen ( Fernseher an, Nachtlichtlampe im Raum an), trotzdem wird das Bild schwarz/weiss angezeigt, deshalb bin ich in der Hinsicht enttuscht. Die Akustik ist um ein vielfaches besser als bei der normalen Furbo, kein Hintergrundrauschen, was sehr positiv ist. Bei dem Icloud Recorder sollte doch bitte nicht die amerikanische Uhrzeit AM/PM angezeigt werden, sonder von 0.00-24.00 Uhr. Ein Button um mehrere Aufnahmen gleichzeitig im ICloud Recorder zu lschen wre erleichternd und wrde Zeit sparen.

    Korrektur: Die Farbnachtsicht muss in den Einstellung der App von “automtisch” auf “immer” umgestellt werden, dann klappt das auch mit der Farbnachtsicht. Bin jetzt total begeistert von der Furbo 360 Grad Kamera.

  56. PopO22mjmvh says:

     United States 🇺🇸

    Furbo lives up to the hype. I get alerts at all the right times from my dogs activity. I love being able to toss them treats when I’m not home. The 360 camera is definitely what sold me. It works so well

  57. QuyenEERpza says:

     United States

    Love that I can see my dog and give him a treat when not away! This thing is awesome

  58. lhefez says:

     United States 🇺🇸

    Great!! I can watch!!! I can watch my dogs tear up the house from a remote location….cool. Talk to them through the speaker and that really gets them going… tear it up twice as fast….
    I LOVE IT!!!!!!

  59. MandyWooten says:

     United States 🇺🇸

    Two Terriers (Terrors), better known as the Psycho Sisters have fallen in love with this device.

    There was a suggestion in the doggy suggestion box to set a schedule on Alexa, then the Hooman can leave….maybe not…it was not seconded in the monthly dog meeting, a mammal with opposable thumbs has to refill it, welp, the hooman can stay, they are still necessary.

  60. GrazynaMcknight says:

     United States 🇺🇸

    Golden Review Award: 2 From Our UsersI actually like this product. The problem is, the software is very limiting. In order for it to stop recording, you have to set a “time”. You also cannot schedule treats to launch automatically.

    If you connect it to Alexa, Alexa can turn off the camera based on your location and toss treats on your schedule.

  61. Anonymous says:

     United States 🇺🇸

    I’ve bought many bags of treats, trying to stay as close to ideal size as possible. When I dispense them from phone, I get one or 5, not what I want. I buy things on sale so will keep looking. Camera is grea

  62. TommieRupp says:

     United States 🇺🇸

    I bought my first Furbo a couple of years ago and was very happy with it. I was even happier when I found that I could add another Furbo to give me an even better view. The new Furbo 360 works great! I love that now I do not have blind spots and can see what my little dogs are up to.

  63. Anonymous says:

     United States

    This camera is amazing. It captures everything and has SO many options. It is easy to connect and now I can keep an eye on my pups and my home anytime I am away! It is clear and picks up sound. You can record and take photo too. It’s all around great!!! Would definitely purchase again.

  64. IsabelCottrell says:

     United States

    I will receive notices that my dog is barking and they are not. I am home when it sends the notification, so I know she did not bark

  65. MiguelZeigler says:

     United States 🇺🇸

    It’s easy to use, but if you don’t have fast internet it does lose connection part of the time. We do like checking on everything, love that it alerts to what the dogs are doing and even tells you if it sees a person in the house. So I know when my husband gets home from work.

  66. Anonymous says:

     Germany 🇩🇪

    Die 360 Kamera ist super. Tolle Weiterentwicklung ! Danke.
    Der Leckerlie Auswurf klappt bisher nicht ganz so toll wie beim alten Furbo…allerdings knnte das auch an der anderen Futtersorte liegen. Wird noch getestet. Aber alles in allem ist Furbo einfach toll und ich kann Ihn allen Tierbesitzern nur empfehlen. Gerade wenn man nicht Zuhause ist und mal nach seinen Fellnasen schauen mchte ob alles ok ist 🙂 Von mir eine absolute Kaufempfehlung !

  67. Anonymous says:

     United States

    Everything is perfect however the features aren’t free. The product cost so much to not be able to use basic functions without fee for the nanny. You will receive one month of features for free.

  68. AlyssaGirardin says:

     United States

    After the initial free trial, I feel like the Nanny mode is less accurate. The furbo doesn’t follow my dog like it previously did. I haven’t changed anything since I started paying for the subscription.

  69. Anonymous says:

     United States

    Golden Review Award: 12 From Our UsersI’ve had the Furbo 360 camera for a few weeks now, and it’s really helped out with giving my dog medications on time. She has a pretty rigid schedule, and the treat dispenser works great for when I have to be away at medicine time! For reference, I use half a small pill pocket, and either let it dry out a little or roll it in a tiny bit of flour to get rid of stickiness, so it won’t stick inside the treat dispenser. If I’m careful, I can also set up two treats in separate “spokes” inside the dispenser wheel so I can load up 2 rounds of medication. Works like a charm!

    The night vision is really clear too, and I love that there’s a 2-way audio so I can get her attention and hear what’s going on.

    Great for pill pockets too!

  70. MurielJFKR says:

     United States

    Golden Review Award: 6 From Our UsersI just set up the Furbo tonight and it was easy to set up. The camera is great and I love how the Furbo turns when a dog enters the room. I will need to go look for treats as the ones I ordered from Amazon don’t work well with this. The treats need to be small and round. I did cut up some treats but they were too heavy or didn’t like the corner on the once round but too big treat. The rubber device that moves the treat seems to get weighed down easily which makes it hard to get the treats out remotely. I did try mini-marshmallows just to see how things worked and they dispensed from the Furbo without any problem. That might be due to the weight or the shape of the trea

  71. Anonymous says:

     United States

    Golden Review Award: 2 From Our UsersThis is probably the neatest, coolest, most helpful device I’ve ever bought! I need to see what my devil dog is doing when I leave and try to stop him from destroying the house! Not only does it follow your dog, you can talk to them, give them a treat and see what happens at night! It records any movement, so I can see what my teens are doing when they are finally up! Heeheehee! The only thing negative things I can say about it so far is the treats have to be a certain size and need to be round. Mine are oblong shaped and get stuck every so often, so I’ll have to get small round treats. Also it’s pricey, but I bought this one on sale during Amazon days. I believe it should be the sale price all of the time and more would people would get one.

  72. CarrolVdvsv says:

     United States

    Golden Review Award: 2 From Our UsersI like the Furbo very much. Had the original Furbo, and recently upgraded to the 360. My (probably only) complaint is with the cloud video management. You can only delete videos ONE AT A TIME. My wife was home from work yesterday and wound up unknowingly creating 277 videos. So now I have to delete TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY SEVEN VIDEOS ONE AT A TIME. Seems rather VHS for this day and age.