Logitech G Saitek X52 Pro Flight Control System, Controller
Logitech G Saitek X52 Pro Flight Control System, Controller and Joystick Simulator, LCD Display, Illuminated Buttons, 2xUSB, PC – Black/Silve
Illuminated Buttons & LCD Display
Illuminated buttons on stick and throttle let you know where to press. LCD display informs you about button configurations at-a-glance. And new ability to interact with stack radios in popular titles.
Dual-Spring Centering Mechanism
A highly accurate centering mechanism ensures the joystick easily returns to neutral position after you let go. Non-contact technology on the X and Y axes enhances control while increasing durability.
Progressive, Adjustable Throttle
Progressive throttle with detents (markings indicate where actions activate) simplifies control of idle, afterburners and reverse thrusters. Tension dial adjusts throttle resistance to your liking.
Joystick 3D Twist Rudder Controls
They add another dimension of command to simulated flight. For more traditional control, a rudder lock switch disables the twist capabilities and confines input to the X and Y axes.
Advanced Grip Adjustment System
A five-position handle adjustment system with contoured finger grips conforms to your grip style and hand size for maximum comfort during epic flights.
Powerful Customization Software
Download to create custom profiles for your space and flight sims. Program 3 mode settings, pinkie switch, 3 HATs, mouse micro stick, and 19 LED color buttons with 105+ commands at your fingertip.
X52 Pro Flight Control SystemCustomize commands and LED lighting colors for advanced cockpit control
” data-position=”triggerHorizontal” />Advanced JoystickWith 3D Twist Rudder for enhanced control
” data-position=”triggerHorizontal” />Dual-Spring Centering MechanismEnsures joystick returns to neutral position when you let go
” data-position=”triggerHorizontal” />X52 Pro System Requirements
- Windows 10, Windows 8.1, Windows 7
- 2-USB 2.0 Port
- Internet connection for optional software download
| Weight: | 1.63 kg |
| Dimensions: | 17 x 17 x 27.8 cm; 1.63 Kilograms |
| Brand: | Logitech G |
| Model: | 945-000003 |
| Colour: | Black |
| Batteries Included: | No |
| Manufacture: | Logitech |
| Dimensions: | 17 x 17 x 27.8 cm; 1.63 Kilograms |
An upgrade from a basic Thrustmaster HOTAS but it has a few flaws.
I like the construction, everything feels robust and it is a big step-up in build from my creaky old T-flight HOTAS (that was more than good enough to get me to Elite combat status). The interconnecting cable is long which gives me more freedom for controller placement with larger keyboards. It is more erogonomic , easier to reach buttons. It has a display which I use to check the correct configuration is loaded. Almost all buttons can have their colour configured (either red, amber, green) and global brightness can be adjusted.
Windows 11 installs driver automatically , and its in the properties that you adjust dead zones, set button colours.
It has a few gotchas that prevent me giving it 5 stars, things that for the price I did not expect to see:
1. If I power-up my PC with it plugged in, the X52 does not startup correctly – the button LEDs light-up but the display is blank and teh driver isnt loaded. I must unplug then plug it back in when Windows is up.
2. If it is plugged in it will sometimes conflict with mouse operations on the windows desktop. This is probably solvable but I havent found the solution yet,.
3. The configuration app is not very user friendly and poorly documented – there are some good post on reddit that help. I cant see how to load a button configuration automatically, I must select my elite settings from the docked app.
4. The thrust control is notched at around 25% and 75%, this gets in the way of smooth operation. I read of people modifying it. I would have preferred a middle dedent for zero-thrust like my old HOTAS.
5. The default button configuration uses some buttons for profile selection (a feature no one seesm to use), this is confusing and conflicts with Elite configurations. You must use the X52 Pro app to change the mode of operation.
6. Make sure you download the X52 Pro button app and not the X52 app and have a web-browser handy!
As far as HOTAS goes, this one's up there with the bes
Absolutely the best value if you’re after a decent HOTAS that will last the test of time. Can’t fault i
They are absolute best value for money, but they regularly break.
They are absolute best value for money, but they regularly break. This is my 3rd one in 8 years, I’ll be just ordering the 4th…
High hopes
I have high hopes for this hotas system after being let down by the normal x52 which between the first and replacement system only lasted 20ish days in total.
So onto the review..
The x52pro feels so much better and smoother than any hotas I have used in the past (t16k and x52), the styling and build quality far surpasses that of the normal x52. The buttons are cast metal and the plastic doesn’t feel cheap. When I plugged it into the pc it recognises it as a saitek x52pro and not Logitech which means since Logitech took over they haven’t played around with it too much (which is a good thing).
All in all, I am hoping that this hotas lasts for a good few years and doesn’t fail on me.
Will update the review if anything changes
Pretty good
At the price of 125 it’s very reasonable. I paid 170 two years ago. I use it for Elite Dangerous. This is a pretty good HOTAS if you don’t need great accuracy. Just flying around and using gimballed weapons it’s perfectly fine. If you need to get more accurate with fixed weapons I’m afraid this stick is not going to cut i
Top Funktio
Es funktioniert super der joystick ist etwas laberig das konnte ich aber beheben mit einem kleinen Teil. Ansonsten ist es top der subregler hab schnen Wiederstand. Das ganze Set fhlt sich sehr Wertig an. Bin zufrieden klare Kaufempfehlung von mir.
Attached to base plate.
Needs patience to program to each game, but we’ll worth it.
Sehr guter HOTAS (mit einigen kleinen Macken)
Fr Digital Combat Simulator und Flight Simulator wurde ein guter HOTAS bentigt. Da der X52 Pro gerade im Angebot war, habe ich mir den als Weihnachtsgeschenk bestellt (und ein USB Verlngerungskabel dazu). Die Qualitt ist sehr gut gelungen, viele Teile sind aus massivem Metall wie etwa die Drehknpfe, beide Abzge, und einige Schalter.
Die Beleuchtung ist sehr schn gelungen – aber hier gibt es den ersten Kritikpunkt: Sie lsst sich nur theoretisch einstellen, viele Knpfe haben keine einstellbare Farbe, oder die Farbe weicht stark von der angegebenen ab (man kriegt leider kein Amber hin.) Eine eigene RGB-Abmischung gibt es nicht. Desweiteren flackert das Display oder dessen Hintergrundbeleuchtung geht oft aus, wenn man das Display dimmt. Reduktion der Hintergrundbeleuchtung fhrt zu Flackern der LEDs am Schubhebel.
Der Joystick fhlt sich wunderbar an, und ist sehr leichtgngig und man kriegt keinen Tennis-Arm von einer Viertelstunde die F-16 fliegen. Er hat ein spezielles Dual Spring Federsystem, was ein sehr angenehmes Fluggefhl erzeugt.
Der Schubhebel sieht fantastisch aus, hat einen Nachbrenner-Detent und verndert seine Farbe von Grn auf Rot, wenn der Nachbrenner einsetzt (oder wenn man im Flugsimulator die Turbine auf 100% hochdreht). Das sieht stylisch techy aus.
Hier der zweite Kritikpunkt: Leider wackelt der Ingame-Schubhebel besonders im unteren ersten Turbinendrehzahldrittel ein wenig, die Abfrage des HOTAS Sensors ist wohl nicht ganz so przise wie gewnscht. Die Vernderungen am Schub ingame sind aber minimal, und im Grossen und Ganzen bertrgt der X52 den eingestellten Schub sauber an den Computer.
Besonders die F-16 fliegen macht damit besonders Laune, da der Schubhebel an den der F-16 optisch angelehnt ist.
Wenn ich den Normalpreis der bei vollen 250 oder so liegt, gezahlt htte, wren die angefhrten Macken wie flackernde sporadisch ausgehende Displaybeleuchtung und wackelige unprzise Schubeinstellung-bertragung zum PC inakzeptabel gewesen, aber fr das Angebot mit 120 Euro kann man mal ein Auge zudrcken 😉
Amazing Joystick
This was a lot bigger than I excepted but it’s fantastic.. very responsive and comfy to use.. I’m really glad I picked this as.. you can easily change the settings and adjust for smaller hands
You need to look at YouTube Posts to Set This Up Properly But Well Worth The Effo
Start with the negative and as a person with a phobia of Computers and Peripherals take this with a large pinch of salt. So the negatives first in Elite mine did not work straight out of the box and I used You Tube to help me get it set up the way I wanted and for all buttons to be fully functional. Having said that when you’ve done a bit of tinkering (trust me it’s not that hard) you have a really good Hotas with enough controls that function smoothly to play games. The controls are comfortable and a joy to use. I would of given this five stars apart from the setting up. Do yourself a favour and download an x52 template or two to help you with key mapping there are plenty on the web and it really helps you get the most out of your purchase.
Definitely worth the price I paid
Very comfortable and ergonomic joystick that so far has done everything I would want it to do.
Sadly the software to program different “profiles” that can be switched between on the fly is nolonger maintained but even without it I am just about able to cram in all the controls I need for the notoriously button heavy Warthunder.
A good low entry control system
X52 Pro is a good low entry flight sim control system. The system has a good amount of weight to it and feels very comfortable. The only issue I had with the control, was that there wasn’t enough buttons to map important commands to and during flight, whilst trimming the aircraft would respond more aggressively in relation to the amount of pressure I placed on the trim hat. Also during flight when the joy stick was released, it wasn’t re-centring properly and tend to stay slightly left of centre even after collaboration. Saying that I still enjoyed using the X52 and consider it as good flight sim control system.
Ein absolutes Muß für den Flightsimulator 2020
Ich habe mir den Joystick extra fr den Flugsimulator 2020 zugelegt. Ich hatte verschiedene Gamepads oder nur reine Tastatur und Maussteuerung versucht, alles sehr unprziese. Als ich das erste Mal den Joystick verwendet habe, der brigens sofort original erkannt wurde und konfiguriert wurde, war das Gefhl beim Spielen ein vllig neues und berraschend positives. Die Przision und die Feinheit wie jetzt die Flugzeuge zu steuern sind, die Landungen wesentlich einfacher, es ist Toll. Also fr Fans des Flugsimulators ein absolutes Mu, erspart eine Menge rger und wertet das Spiel wesentlich auf.
X52 Pro
Pro:
Stick:
– Sehr gute Qualitt, nicht nur Optisch, sondern auch vom Gefhl her, da viele Metallteile.
– Eine recht gute Auswahl and Knpfen und verschiedensten Schaltern etc. die entweder mit eigener Logitech Software belegt, oder direkt durch die meisten Spiele in den Einstellungen belegt werden knnen.
– Safety Switch am Stick die wenn zugeklappt, grn leuchtet, und wenn aufgeklappt einen roten “FIRE” Button freilegt der z.B. auf Raketen belegt werden kann. Ist ein Pro Punkt, da der X52 Pro/X52 die einzigen HOTAS Systeme in dieser Preisklasse sind, die dieses Feature besitzen.
– Sehr gute Ergonomie, und die Handablage unten am Stick kann eingestellt werden je nach Handgre.
Throttle:
– MFD (Multifunktionsdisplay) am Throttle. Dort wird Uhrzeit, Modus etc. angezeigt, und man kann auch eine Stoppuhr setzen.
– Es gibt ein “Force” Rad an der Seite des Throttles, mit dem man den Widerstand einstellen kann.
– Auch eine sehr gute Auswahl an Knpfen.
– Sehr geschmeidige Bewegung, kurz vor dem Min. und Max. gibt es einen kleinen Widerstand/Bump , damit man am Gefhl erkennen kann ob man mit max. Leistung oder min. Leistung fliegt.
Contra:
Stick:
Der Stick ist zwar mittig, nur ist er etwas wackelig und locker wenn zentriert. Laut meiner Recherche ist dies normal und kein Problem. Nur fhlt sich das dann logischerweise sehr komisch an und deswegen ein Contra.
Das wre eigentlich der einzige Minuspunkt am Stick.
Allgemein:
In der Packung gibt es ein paar Saugnpfe die unten an dem Stick sowie Throttle angebracht werden knnen (die sitzen Bombenfest in den Halterungen) nur da der Ottonormalverbraucher nur einen normalen Holztisch besitzt, halten diese absolut schlecht und gehen mal gerne mitten im Fliegen ab.
Was natrlich das Flugerlebnis erheblich mindert. Sowas ist einfach eine billig Lsung ber die sich anscheinend keine Gedanken gemacht wurden. Es gibt auch regulre runde kleine Gummipads an den Unterseiten, die auch jedoch wegen des Holztisches, berhaupt keine Reibung/Haftung besitzen. Am besten irgendeine Gummimatte oder hnliches drunterlegen.
8/10 Punkten. 🙂
Good controller (on second attempt)
This is my second one in a week. First one arrived but suffered terribly from “ghosting” (random commands being sent to game, when controller not being utilised)
It would also cause icons to be clicked on the desktop and context menus to open up. After much investigation by myself and also Logitech , it was suggested that the HOTAS was faulty and I should exchange.
Amazon exchanged without any dramas….the faulty is being sent back and the new one arrived today.
New one is now working superbly (as it should do) Software to configure and program HOTAS is very straight forward to use, and the build quality (despite my first faulty one, you always tend to get some duff ones in a batch…especially where tech is concerned).
Great stick
Presi una volta questo prodotto usato e chiesi dopo pochi giorni il reso poich nonostante tutti i comandi funzionassero perfettamente, la molla dello stick risultava estremamente rigida e nonostante abbia provato a lubrificarla la situazione non cambiava. Preso il prodotto nuovo e il problema non si presentato. Tutto sommato, il prodotto visivamente molto bello, non super intuitivo ma se settato bene si pu godere di una bella esperienza. Ci sono pulsanti e analogici che nonostante tutto, seppur la qualit costruttiva sembra buona, mi danno l’impressione di essere molto sensibili ed un uso molto frequente e poco attento potrebbe guastare qualche pulsante fondamentale. Il mio consiglio di prenderlo, da profano del settore, per un uso ragionato e consapevole.. in poche parole, tenetelo alla lontana dei bambini maldestri.
Ni excelente, Ni malo.
El software es malo, pero el joystick y el throttle se sienten de calidad. Hay botones que estn un poco blandos pero en general de calidad.
Buen producto por el precio.
Feels deliciously matte textured and rolling/firing is a dream!
The springs are smooth to pull, push, twist and bend along with a really satisfying clicky trigger. This is imo, the best all round joystick for Star-citizen, Elite, Squadrons and War-thunder.
The safety missile switch is a really fun touch too!
If you’re looking for you’re first HOTAS for any of the above mentioned games, I urge you to get this one over ANY others, it’s price point, quality and usability are a perfect balance of all the best aspects of other HOTAS sticks.
Also, the precision is unmatched from the other sticks I’ve used!
Lastly – glowy lights, pretty….
Excellent HOTAS uni
Had to wait to get one of these, but it was worth the wait.
It is great for MSFS2020 as it is instantly programmed as a default in the flight sim, saves a lot of faffing about,
Recommended
5.0 out of 5 stars Great service
Absolutely in love with these, great service from the supplier too.
5.0 out of 5 stars Brilliant piece of ki
Bought this for my husband and he’s thrilled with it.
BRILLIANT BIT OF KIT
I’ve been using this for quite a while now for DCS and elite dangerous now and it’s perfect it’s nice and heavy and doesn’t move around when in use.
A nice touch is you can change the colour and brightness of the leds and mfd in Windows.
DI COSA STIAMO PARLANO...?
Insomma, cercavo qualcosa di professionale, performante, preciso per la simulazione di volo e questo prodotto ne vale i soldi spesi. Eccellente dire ancora poco! Ho anche l’X-52 e ora l’X-52 pro due prodotti veramente Ultra. Li utilizzo con Flight sim. 2020 e mi trovo benissimo.
Although it already is few years old it's features and quality of build are perfect for modern flight simulators. I was fed up with a cheap Thrustmaster and decided to upgrade to a more premium solution. This was a perfect choice. More than 40 programmable buttons and dials, easily assigned in Flight Simulator and other games like DCS. Highly recommended.
Although it already is few years old it’s features and quality of build are perfect for modern flight simulators. I was fed up with a cheap Thrustmaster and decided to upgrade to a more premium solution. This was a perfect choice. More than 40 programmable buttons and dials, easily assigned in Flight Simulator and other games like DCS. Highly recommended.
Grundstzlich bin ich absolut zufrieden mit dem Stick und mchte mich ber die Funktionalitt gar nicht gro auslassen, denn schlielich ist es ein HOTAS und tut genau das was es soll.
Es geht eher um die Rahmenbedingungen und Besonderheiten.
Und hier fngt das Spielchen an. HOTAS-typisch muss man natrlich vor dem Spielgenuss eine ganze Menge konfigurieren und das kann eine kleine Odyssee sein… zwischen Buttons finden und Deadzones gibt es etliches zu beachten. Mit einer ausgedruckten bersicht und ein wenig bung hat man den Dreh aber sehr schnell raus und geht voll in der Immersion auf.
Ganz wichtig und das musste ich auch erst herausfinden: Einige haben schon geschrieben, dass es Probleme mit USB-Hubs gibt und das konnte ich tatschlich auch feststellen. Also direkt ans Board anschlieen. Jedoch gibt es auch hier ein “Aber”. Denn der Stick zieht ordentlich Saft. Liefert der Port “nur” die 500mA, dann kann es zu Aussetzern kommen. An einem USB3-Port und gegebenenfalls entsprechender Verlngerung sind diese jedoch umgehend Geschichte. Ich konnte das tatschlich auch reproduzieren, indem ich ein ganz einfaches und eher dnnes Kabel zu Verlngerung verwendet habe und alternativ ein deutlich hochwertigeres USB3-Kabel.
Wenn das wei und beachtet, ist es meiner Meinung nach ein Super-Stick. Gut, die Software knnte eine neue Version vertragen und die Infos dazu sind eher mig, aber zum Glck muss man da selten dran.
Sono ormai 2 anni che possiedo questo hotas, acquistato usato ma era praticamente nuovo. Lo uso con Elite Dangerous e dopo questo tempo non ho avuto nessun tipo di problema. La plastica di buona qualit, non ho notato nessun segno di usura durante i 2 anni. Le molle del joystick fanno ancora bene il loro lavoro, ho applicato del grasso filante per far scivolare meglio la parte metallica che scorre sulla base in plastica. Il software dedicato permette di impostare funzioni ad ogni singolo tasto o combinazioni di tasti, per Elite veramente utile. L’unico “segno di usura” un pulsante della manetta che, se non viene premuto con decisione, non prende il comando ma, dopo 2 anni ci sta!
5.0 out of 5 stars DCS World essential ki
I purchased this to play the best military flight sim around, DCS World. Essential kit to get the full enjoyment out of landing an F-18 Hornet on a carrier.
Viele Konfigurationsmöglichkeite
Das System wird mit dem neuen Flightsimulator 2020 von Microsoft verwendet und zwar mit der spielinternen Tasten- bzw. Achsenbelegung. Alles funktioniert gut, nichts knarrt, quietscht, klappert oder bremst, nichts muss vor dem Spiel noch gngig gemacht werden. Die jeweils vier Saugnpfe unten halten Stick und Throttle zuverlssig auf glatten Flchen (bei mir eine Glastischplatte) fest. Etwas schwierig eher das Ablsen und Verstauen, wenn nicht gespielt wird. Die Steuerbewegungen sind fr mich als Gelegenheitsspieler direkt genug, ist selbstverstndlich spielintern auch vom eher wenig authentischen Flugverhalten der Propellermaschinen abhngig.
Die Materialqualitt ist fr den Preis eher mig, massivere Systeme mit mehr Metall kosten allerdings auch mindestens das Doppelte.
Una decepción media, pero no hay nada mejor por el precio.
El x52 pro es un buen joystick en general, simplemente no es el dispositivo premium que esperaba.
Los botones estn bien ubicados, la comodidad es excelente, la precisin es buena, mas no fantstica.
La calidad de construccin es mediocre en algunas partes, los plsticos que se sienten fciles de romper definitivamente no valen los 160 que pagu.
Una de las cosas ms decepcionantes de este joystick es el hecho de que es extremadamente ligero. Colocar las ventosas en la parte inferior de la palanca y el acelerador es simplemente obligatorio; de lo contrario, en juegos ms intensos como Star Wars Squadrons o Elite Dangerous, la palanca simplemente se mover a todas partes.
El software es simplemente terrible. Desactualizado, poco intuitivo y confuso.
Pero al final del da, por el precio, no hay nada mejor.
Freude für alle Piloten 😎
Fr die Flugsimulation ein sehr schner Joystick…Leider auch bei der Generation immer noch mit Saugnpfen..
Und was ich mir immer noch wnsche ist um es fr alle leicht zu machen, eine CD damit der Software… naja
Ansonsten macht es Spa damit abzuhebe
Ottimo
Lo uso principalmente con Elite Dangerous,e con Star Citizen ,mi trovo abbastanza bene,ho configurato tutti i tasti principali e quelli che uso di pi ,la cloche e ben fatta, robusta, leggera e precisa nei movimenti, la manetta ha quel giusto grip di forza ( n troppo leggero n troppo resistente) con un fine corsa si in accelerazione sia in decelerazione,si possono scegliere i colori delle luci dei pulsanti ,peccato per il piccolo display che non serve quasi a niente ( poteva essere sfruttato meglio e supportato meglio ) per il resto soddisfatto dell’acquisto
A Very Good Joystick and Throttle
My old Saitek Cyborg Evo finally gave up the ghost so it was time to replace it with something new. I definitely wanted a joystick with a Z rotation and having read many reviews after some deliberation (as the comments were mixed) I decided to go with the Logitech branded X52 Pro. I did ensure that I got the Logitech rather than the older Saitek version which has had some very poor reviews.
The two units are mainly plastic but feel robust and the cable that joins them seems to be good quality. On plugging into a USB port the drivers are automatically downloaded and you’re ready to go. There is some software as well that you can download but I haven’t bothered with it as the units already have more buttons than I need.
The joystick action has a nice light feel which I particularly like, the button placement is good and being lit with LED’s you can change the colour and intensity. With deadzones set to 0 I couldn’t see any evidence of drift from the properties page but running in X4 Foundations with zero deadzone there was an almost imperceptible drift on the X axis. Upping to 1% in X4 Foundations stopped it but it was really not enough to worry me in first place.
The throttle is a little stiffer than I would like ideally. There is an adjustment wheel which helps but it doesn’t seem to make a huge amount of difference. I soon got used to it though as the action is very smooth. The lower detent seems mainly imperceptible, the upper one is noticeable which I quite like though it’s not to everyone’s taste. Again there are a number of buttons, well placed on the handle and a MFD display that I don’t see the point of myself, but if you’re in MS Flight Sim it’s probably very useful.
The units also come with some rubber sucker feet to hold the units in place on a desktop. I found I didn’t need them myself as the units are quite large and stable but if you’re someone that twists and turns a lot when you play a combat sim then no doubt you would find them useful.
I have been very pleased indeed with both these units and would certainly recommend them based on my experience with them so fa
Bonito y cómodo, poco robusto pero cumple su función.
Buenas,
Primero de todo decir que el producto que yo he adquirido es el x52 Pro, pero no lo he comprado nuevo, sino con la opcin Warehouse. Eso quiere decir que no lo estreno yo, alguien ya lo habia comprado, abierto, provado y por el motivo que sea se habia devuelto a Amazon. Es decir que nunca sabes al 100% en que estado va a estar el producto. Yo decid arriesgarme ya que en el caso de que no me gustra lo puedo devolver cmo cualquier otro producto.
Pues bien, una vez recibido el producto se aprecia que ha estado ya abierto, dentro de la caja falta la mitad del embalaje que hace que todo quede en su sitio, amazon ha puesto papel en su defecto. Lo saco todo, todo en perfecto estado a falta de enchufarlo al pc y comprobar. Pero vaya vaya, falta un cable! Un cable que se conecta entre el joystick y la palanca de gas. Ps/2 macho a Ps/2 macho.
Pues por suerte he podido conseguir uno en una tienda cerca de mi casa.
Lo instalo todo, pongo sus drivers, configuro en el juego y todo ok. Funcionando perfectamente. Habia ledo comentarios de que es super complicado configurarlo, para mi, igual que todos los joysticks que he tenido.
PROS:
Muy bonito y actual, lucecitas molonas.
Super ergonmico, cmodo al tacto, mano derecha regulable segn el tamao de la mano.
Bastante preciso.
Cumple su funcin
CONTRAS:
Algunas partes/botones parecen dbiles.
Los conectores PS/2 no son una buena idea, es propenso a darle golpes y romperlo, seria mejor un DB9 roscado, similar a un VGA.
Las bases tienen poco peso, con lo que es provable que se muevan al hacer topes con las palancas. Lleva unas ventosas para instalar pero segn el tablero de la mesa no hacen su funcion, no agarran. Habria que atornillarlos, ya van preparados para ello, pero va a ser que no.
Conclusin, es un producto de gama media, cumple su funcin, es bonito y mola mucho pero le falta algo de robustez. Para comprar algo mejor hay que ir a un X56, no es una mala opcin, yo para gastarme 200 en el X52 me gastaria 250 en el X56. No es mi caso pq repito yo lo he comprado en versin Warehouse. Saludos y espero que les sirva.
Ergonómico
Pude probar el X56 un par de veces y puedo decir que aunque el acelerador de este me gust ms, el joystick de este X52 lo considero ms cmodo y eso es lo ms importante para m. Por tanto contento con la compra, espero que dure.
What a stick
I play Elite Dangerous with VR and HCS voice pack and i have to say this is now the most outstanding game i have ever played in my life
Seeting up was always going to be a pain but the extra buttons and switches along with my vr kit makes the experience at times breathtaking and far beyond how i imagined gaming ever getting, yes, the draw back is the game but its still an amazing experience
The extra buttons and switches, the throttle, plenty of cable on the throttle
The only draw back is there’s no tension adjust on the stick but it feels very good at the moment, if love to test it with sum other flight sims
Great Classic Joystick
Great pair of HOTAs, been using these for a good year and a half now and never had any issues, always responsive and never let me down. Also love the fact that the LEDs colours can be changed within the windows game settings which was a little surprise a few weeks back.
Buona qualità costruttiva
Utilizzo da anni i simulatori di volo e questo joystick+manetta lo consiglio a tutti, neofiti ed esperti, in quanto a distanza di anni di utilizzo frequente funziona sempre perfettamente.
I had one of these back in the days when they were made by MadCatz. It was a great system, but suffered from very poor build quality.
Now that they are made by Logitech I decided to take a gamble & try another one – I am pleased that I did! The units feel better made than previously, & the control movements are much firmer. It appears that the X52 Pro now has the build quality that it deserves.
Recommended!!
Bought this to replace poor Thrustmaster Hotas 4 that I broke in three weeks, it’s has amazing adjustable lights, it’s accuracy is superb, the balancing spring is good, I wonder how long it will last? Great for EliteDangerous
Good stick
I’ve had the pre-logitech version of this stick for a good number of years now,
It has served me well through win vista/ 7 / 8, only going out of regular use when
DCs A-10 / Thrustmaster Warthog came on the scene.
The only bad thing of note is that nice though that soft rubber coating feels when new, one day it does eventually go off
– becoming highly sticky and unpleasant to touch, as though a 5 year old with a fruit lollipop has used it just before you….. !
Apart from that, it’s given me years of moderate use and I couldn’t be happier with it. Sounds like quality control can be a lottery, but when you get a good one, they’re great.
Super Joystick
Ich bin sehr zufrieden mit dem Joystick benutze ihn aktuell mit Star Citizen wo er hervorragend funktioniert.
Der Joystick war anders als bei anderen weder gebraucht, noch ein Montagsprodukt.
Der einzige Haken ist das die Software nicht so leicht zu verstehen ist. Und die Programmierung nicht sehr intuitiv ist.
Die Lieferung war super schnell.
Per i simulatori di volo, questo prodotto ottimo e perfetto. Ci sono un sacco di impostazioni per personalizzare l’esperienza di simulazione di volo nei giochi. Mi raccomando ci vuole una scrivania ampia perch la base dei due pezzi larga. Ad ogni modo maneggevole e stabile.
Muy buen producto pero podría bajar algo el precio para el tiempo que lleva en el mercado
Muy buen producto Logitech, pero podra bajar algo el precio para el tiempo que lleva en el mercado. Poco ms que decir, vena del X52 normal y en comparacin con esta versin Pro es que ste ltimo la palanca es algo ms dura principalmente por la modificacin del mecanismo. Tambin viene ligeramente modificado ciertos controles y su material empleado y algn extra.
Se recomienda en general el producto, aunque hay otras opciones mejores, tambin son ms caras. Lo recomiendo por calidad-precio-prestaciones y muy fcil de configurar.
Finora un dei flightstick migliori in quanto il costo contenuto le caratteristiche del prodotto lo rendono fantastico sotto molti aspetti. Lo consiglio senza ombra di dubbio. La qualit e le specifiche sono sopra la media e direi quasi ottime. Ovviamente non il prodotto top di gamma ma fa il suo egregiamente.
Es gibt keinen Grund für schlechte Bewertunge
Super verarbeitet, liegt gut in der Hand und Elite Dangerous fhlt sich mit VR-Brille und dieser perfekten Nachbildung aus dem Spiel sehr realistisch an. Ist nur zu empfehlen. Ein Problem habe ich aber dennoch: Die Saugfe halten nicht so gut, kann aber eventuell auch an meinem Tisch liege
Suficientes controles y buena disposició
Solo algunas cosas no me han convencido. La pantalla integrada en el acelerador es demasiado bsica, y no tiene una posicin fija a la mitad del acelerador que en juegos de simulacin espacial suele determinar el punto avanzar/retroceder (aunque lo resuelven con un botn que invierte el estado del acelerador y tirando). Le falta un poco de peso, aunque si tienes una alfombrilla ancha con las gomas de la base no se mueve.
Dicho esto, todo lo demas me ha gustado mucho, es muy comodo y suave, tiene leds bien distribuidos, mltiples potencimetros manejados con ruedas en torno a botones. Y las palancas tienen un rebote agradable. Para un jugador amateur que quiera subir el nivel esta genial.
5.0 out of 5 stars Perfect for elite dangerous great for flight sim
Perfect great for flight simulators and also elite dangerous! Took me a while to map all the buttons to what I wanted them for but other than that great flight stick!
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Ausgezeichnet fr Flugsimulator, Kampfflugzeug oder Raumschiff.
Der x52 Pro ist deutlich hochwertig, liegt wahrscheinlich im mittleren Bereich zwischen Anfnger HOTAS und Profi HOTAS.
Hauptschlich aus Plastik Komponenten (sehr stabil) die Achse mit doppelter Sprungfeder ist sehr leicht zu bedienen und fhlt sich sehr gut an, alle HATS und knpfe fhlen sich ebenfalls satbil und vertraulich an.
Garantiert die beste option bevor man das doppelte fr einen Rhino oder Warthog ausgibt.
I read a lot of bad reviews about how these units seem to fail pretty quickly. I’ve deliberately held off posting a review about it until now, to give me plenty of time to put it through it’s paces.
It’s worth noting at this point that I did void the warranty within a week of unboxing it. I bought this primarily for use with flight simulators, which meant I had to get rid of two things, both of which I had researched and planned before even buying the product:
1) The centring spring on the stick;
2) The throttle detent.
Depending on what you want to use this product for, the setup out of the box may be suitable for you. For me, however, a self-centring joystick is unrealistic for flight simulators, especially when the centring spring has heavy tension and is not adjustable. So I removed it completely.
With the throttle (in my case, used primarily as the collective lever for helicopter simulation), it had a nasty detent which prevented smooth, precise input required during flight, especially hovering.
These mods are easy to do and the details can be easily found online through various forums. Bear in mind that ANY modification WILL void your warranty!
Now onto the important stuff. I’ve clocked up around 200 hours of usage on this product, and it’s still going as strong as the day I unboxed it. The build quality is great and is as to expected with any other Logitech product, and the ergonomics feel comfortable and natural. Anyone planning long sessions using this product should be able to do so without worrying about fatigue or aches and pains. All of the buttons and switches are within easy reach, and it doesn’t take long to get used to their respective positions, so you can find them easily even if you happen to be wearing a VR headset.
The Logitech profiling software could really use a HUGE update to make it simpler and easier to use. Again, searching online for tips and advice was the way forward for me, as the software really lacks any sort of help or guidance regarding it’s usage.
Ultimately, this product continues to perform above and beyond my initial expectations. It’s precise, it’s responsive, and I don’t think it’s possible to run out of fingertip control with the huge array of buttons and switches available. It’s completely transformed my flight simulation experience!
Great for Elite Dangerous
Gorgeous, clean, crisp and responsive. None of the problems that people online told me about.
Engine throttle (left hand) is a 0-100% throttle with bumps at 25% and 75%. This is a difficult in elite dangerous, unless you use a forward/reverse button.
HOTAS da gaming
Non serve dire molto su questo prodotto: preso rigenerato come nuovo arriva direi in ottime condizioni anche se l’imballo fatto su in qualche modo solo con la scatola originale e senza altre protezioni esterne. Per fortuna niente si danneggiato.
He estado mirando, comparando, pidiendo opiniones… durante muchisimo tiempo, y al final me he atrevido y lo he comprado.
Muchos conocidos, algunos pilotos comerciales, me han dado susnopiniones sobre todos los HITAS del mercado, pasando desde el Warthog hasta el T.Flight.
Mi intencion era comprar el x56, pero recibi innumetables advertencias de su fragilidad y mal fumcionamiento, y finalmente entre muchis devenires, la cosa quedo entee el T.16000 o el X52 pro. A mi la construccion y el diseo del T.16000 no me convencia, por lo que opte por el x52 pro.
Bien, lo.compre de segunda mano para ver si me convencia, y a parte de venir hecho polvo aunque digera que solo venia rota la caja (ojo si vais a hacerlo), su ergonomia y distribucion me gusto bastante. Luces, palancas, joysticks, ruedas, botines y muelles, todos muy utiles. Devolvi el usado, y en cuanto recibi el reingreso, me lo compre nuevo, y mi sensacion al recibirlo no pudo ser mejor. Las sensaciomes que senti con el usado, se vieron aumemtadas y tranquilizadas al ver la robustez real del producto nuevo. Al apretar los botones se sienten mecanicos, los muelles son robustos, las ruedas precisas, la ergonomia y el tacto extremadamente comodos.
Si quereis un HOTAS avanzado y barato, este es el idoneo.
Logitech X52 Pro used - was it as described??
You always doubt when a product is listed as used – but perfect condition… Well done Amazon. Exactly as described, box battered but the flight control system and all parts as new. Very good value, excellent product.
Despues de usarlo ya unos meses, sigo muy contento con el.
El joystick es una pasada y la calidad es indiscutible, aunque lo encontre un poco caro aun y estando de oferta. Despues de usarlo ya unos meses, sigo muy contento con el.
Sehr guter HOTAS mit Schwäche
Ich habe vor drei Monaten mit Flugsimulatoren begonnen und dieser HOTAS hat den Spafaktor klar erhht.
Man kann sehr viele Cockpit-Funktionen auf die Tasten und Rder auf Thrust und Joystick legen. Allerdings funktioniert das integrierte Navigationsradio nicht wirklich. Stellt man am Thruster nmlich die Frequenzen ein, flackern die Lichter am Gert, als wrde ein Wackelkontakt vorliegen. Gleiches gilt brigens, wenn man die Radios im Cockpit des Simulators bedient. Diese Funktion sollte entweder nachgebessert oder direkt abgeschafft werden. Das Einstellrad fr die Frequenzen ist nmlich nicht gerade schnell und einfach zu bedienen.
Zudem sollte man in der heutigen Zeit auf COM-Anschlsse verzichten.
Fr den Einsteiger – wie mich – eine TOP-Wahl und ich habe den Kauf keinen Moment bereut.
My son bought this for his computer game and is very impressed with it. As he is a teenager that was as much as he would tell me
Ich habe zwischen dem X52 Pro und dem X56 Rhino geschwankt, mich dann aus Preisgrnden fr diesen entschieden. Ja, dass der grere Stick ein paar WOchen danach nur noch 20 Euro mehr gekostet hat, rgerte mich ein wenig, aber auch nur, weil er blau ist 🙂
Der X52 Pro ist ein toller HOTAS. Er ist wertig gebaut, wirkt, trotz Plastik, robust und haltbar. Ich hatte bisher auch noch keine Probleme mit klappernden Teilen, lockeren Tasten oder sonst etwas.
In Rezessionen bekommt man oft mit, dass sich ber das Plastik beschwert wird. Ich selbst kann es nicht ganz nachvollziehen. 200 Euro sind nicht wenig, das ist richtig, aber meine 200 Euro Tastatur ist auch nicht aus Metall, und da drber beschwert sich auch niemand.
Die Software ist ok, wenn man sich erst einmal ein wenig eingefuchst hat. Die meisten Nutzer solch eines Sticks werden damit aber auch leicht klar kommen. Man kann eigene Profile anlegen und alle Tasten in letztendlich 6 Ebenen belegen. Die Vielzahl an Belegungen sollte fr alle gngigen Simulatoren ausreichen.
Fr Menschen wie mich, die mit so etwas zum ersten Mal Erfahrung sammeln: Der Stick ersetzt sozusagen das Drcken von Tasten oder Tastenkrzeln. Ich gebe in der Software zum Beispiel vor, dass Button 16 das Drcken der Taste L auslst. In den meisten Simulationen kann man dann halt entsprechend die Tastaturbelegung anpassen und somit beides aufeinander abstimmen.
Zur Visualisierung lassen sich die Farben der Beleuchtung von den Buttons auch individuell anpassen. So kann man das Fahrwerk gelb beleuchten und den Button fr den Schleudersitz rot, damit man ihn nicht aus versehen drckt. Fr mich ist auch ein kleines Highlight, dass der Button mit der Abdeckklappe rot grn leuchtet, und wenn man sie hoch macht, wird es rot. Spielerei, die mich begeistert 😀
Das Handling des Sticks ist auch fr Spieler/ -innen mit kleineren Hnden kein Problem. sehr stabil. Ich selbst gehre auch zu dieser Kategorie und komme an jede Taste problemlos heran. Die Steuerung spricht przise an und ich empfinde auch keinen groen toten Nullpunkt.
Einziges Manko momentan ist, dass seit Kurzem der Stick beim Einschalten des Rechners, bzw. Anschlieen des X52, die Buttons nicht leuchten. Dazu muss man dann immer kurz die Software ffnen und sie noch einmal aktivieren, obwohl sie auf aktiv stehen. Ich habe auch ber Google noch keine Lsung dazu gefunden. Vielleicht suche ich auch nur falsch 😉 Da es aber kein wirkliches Problem ist, finde ich es auch nicht weiter tragisch.
Der Throttle liegt gut in der Hand. Es gibt die Mglichkeit, die Bedienbarkeit zu justieren. Wem der Regler im Auslieferungszustand zu leicht oder zu schwer bedienbar ist, kann an einem Rad an der Seite problemlos so lange drehen, bis es einem am Besten passt. Im Schubregler ist auch eine “Maus” implementiert. Man hat einen kleinen Daumen Stick und eine “Maustaste”. Mit etwas bung hat man den Dreh schnell raus und kann somit auch in der Simulation auf die Maus verzichten. Wie es ja auch richtig heisst, HOTAS – Hands on Throttle and Stick. Bedienung ber Tastatur und Maus nicht mehr notwendig.
Wer den Stick fest verbauen will, der hat dank vorgebohrter Lcher auch die Mglichkeit, ihn mit Schrauben entsprechend im Cockpit Setup zu verbauen und zu verankern. Die ebenfalls beiliegenden Gummisaugfsse dienen ihrem Zweck, sind aber auch nicht wirklich toll. In meinen Augen der einzige Schwachpunkt. Ich spiele weniger ruckartig und hektisch, aber wer wilde Raum- oder Luftschlachten fliegt, dem wird der Stick bei entsprechender Unterlage sicherlich des fteren wegrutschen und zum virtuellen Absturz fhren… tragisch ^^
Abschlieend mein Fazit: Der HOTAS ist nicht billig, aber es lohnt sich. Wer ein wertiges Instrument fr seine Simulator wnscht, der ist hier richtig aufgehoben und kann sich nach Programmierung der Tasten ber die Software austoben, um den Himmel und das Weltall unsicher zu machen.
Kaufempfehlung
As always, quality so far is not great, hopefully Logitech who took over not so long ago will improve that (I did replace 6 of them so far in two years), but it is the only joystick that allows me to play Elite Dangerous without touching the keyboard at all, so no much choice. I do like it if it only would not break every 4 months 🙂
Logitech just released new drivers, and the last one I received a month ago feels fine so far, so fingers crossed.
Good HOTAS for Elite Dangerous
X52 – PRO: This is a good HOTAS for Elite Dangerous. However I did need to mod mine to make it better.
1. The stick is a bit floppy although quite precise so I did the spring compression mod that tightens up that problem. Takes 5 mins with a few cable ties or some foam cut outs.
2. The stick became a bit sticky after a few months so I have to reapply some good quality silicone grease evry few months to keep it moving smoothly.
3. The hall sensors inside the stick use magnets and there is quite a large deadzone on stock. You can buy some cheap magnets and add them to the existing ones and this really tightens up the sensitivity – much better now.
4. The Throttle has some indents for 10% and 90% which I have removed. Useless for Elite but may be useful for other games?
5. The software for this is quite powerful but suffers from a terrible GUI. One must for Elite players is to disable Clutch Mode which makes button E work properly in the game and also you need to unbind the pinky trigger in the software too.
Other than that I have had the stick for 18 months and it has held up well and has given me great pleasure using it in ED. If you want a great HOTAS for space sims I don’t think you can find much better.
Appena l’ho visto su Amazon scontato a 139,90 l’ho preso al volo malgrado alcune recensioni non entusiaste. Al prezzo precedente no, ma a questo prezzo ho pensato valesse la pena rischiare, e non ne sono affatto pentito. Non ho riscontrato nessuno dei difetti elencati da altri utenti, nessun cigolio (ma tanto avrei le cuffie mentre lo uso) e la manetta non affatto dura come dicono, precisa, e quindi un po’ pi dura di quelle economiche che sembrano bastoni piantati nel burro, ma non cos dura da essere percepito come un fastidio. Dopo un paio d’ore d’utilizzo non sentivo nessuna differenza dal precedente Thrustmaster Hotas-X che ho sostituito. Il mio utilizzo con Elite Dangerous, gioco che stato praticamente costruito attorno a questo controller (persino la grafica in-game lo riprende), ed perfetto, la grande quantit di pulsanti disposti in modo ergonomico fondamentale per me che ci gioco solo in VR e quindi devo trovare tutto “alla cieca”, senza poter contare sul supporto di mouse e tastiera. Non un prodotto di fascia alta, c’ tanta plastica anche se di buona fattura, solo lo step successivo agli HOTAS giocattolo. Sotto i 150 euro sicuramente un acquisto validissimo.
Ideal for Elite Dangerous - other space-sims might become available soon(TM)
This HOTAS replaced my second X52 Pro from the pre-Logitech era. The second one had lasted nearly 18 months, better than the 3 months of the first one. They do have a reputation for having poor build quality, and my experience bore that out, so why would I buy a third?
Firstly, because I was given a full refund when I returned the broken one to Amazon UK. So financially I wasn’t loosing out.
Secondly, for all it’s poor reliability record the X52 Pro is ideal for playing Elite Dangerous. It has enough buttons (although I still need to use the pinky switch to double up a lot of buttons). I can play all night, including wing combat (so selecting wingman and then switching to their target) all regular flying, landing, menu navigation… and I don’t have to touch a keyboard unless I need to type (so to search a system in the system map or respond to text chat.
For Elite Dangerous it’s fantastic. My only concern is that now my four year-old is using it to fly his Asp Explorer I might be advised to keep a spare handy, he’s a little stronger handed than me which is worrying.
Thirdly, it’s size. I’ve tried a TM Warthog and it’s huge. My hands are small and I just couldn’t get on with the Warthog over the weekend I borrowed it. The X55/X56 is bigger than the X52 Pro and I’ve heard friends describe it as a big stick, so that’s not an option.
Since Logitech have bought Saitek I think the space-sim community is hoping that they produce a new HOTAS product that has improved quality and suits the needs of flying in space. Until then, I’ll keep replacing my broken X52 Pros with more X52 pros.
Absolutely recommended for Elite Dangerous and Warthunder.....
Excellent HOTAS……I use it mainly with Elite Dangerous and Warthunder. I also have it running under Win 10. Be sure to use USB 2.0 ports though. Otherwise you might run into difficulties. I created a custom profile as well and tweaked the layout a bit in Win 10 and Elite to my liking. Overall it’s an excellent piece of kit. Wouldn’t go back to mouse and keyboard or Xbox controller again. Next step is a projector…….
Compared with precvious Saitek products this is Gold standard.
The Joystick is connected to the throttle with a cable and the joystick connects to the cumputer via a USB plug.
As soon as its plugged in both the throttle and joystick light up…..and how! The lights can be dimmed, or even turned off altogether if you wish. I’ve turned mine down about 50%.
Its then ready to use and you can test fly. You can get up, turn round and land.
However you still need to fine tune it and you can designate the knobs and levers with a action like flaps, wheels up and down etc., But that is also easy enough. It’s a straight list and you go through it shanging and adding as you wish Brilliant.
I’ve only had it a day and I already love it!
X52 Pro exceeded expectations
Spoilers: the X52 Pro has exceeded my expectations!
After hearing about the problems and reliability of Saitek product, I was in the fence about getting this HOTAS.
I can assure you, this product is excellent in use, it is perfect for the intended use (Elite Dangerous) and I love it. I can also see myself using it for other types of games, namely flight simulation.
Some quirks on the software, some buttons that have to be redefined. Plenty of videos about that on youtube.
If you are into your flight sits either Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, DCS, FSX etc then look no further for your next joystick. I used to own a X52 many moons ago and this hands down beats it in every aspect. The MFD is geared around FSX but with a little applied knowledge you can programme it for many flight related products. 3 colour LEDS provide amazing looking flight stick and is very user friendly. The precision is amazing and if.you need, want or are planning to change your flight control then this baby will.serve you well. Absolutely chuffed to bits thank you.