Thrustsmaster T.16000M FCS Joystick with H.E.A.R.T Technology – Compatible with PC via USB in Windows
T.16000M FCS Joystick
Thrustmaster has devoted its 25 years of expertise in flight sim controllers to meet the growing demand from flight simmers in general – and space simmers in particular.
The T.16000M FCS has been designed for advanced fliers looking for comprehensive, realistic controls as an alternative to using a mouse and keyboard.
The T.16000M FCS (Flight Control System) flight stick is compatible with PC via USB in Windows 10, 8 and 7 (32-bit and 64-bit).
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T.16000M FCSThe T.16000M FCS features 4 independent axes, including twist rudder (controlled by rotating the stick), 16 action buttons with “braille”-style physical button identification, one 8-way Point of View (PoV) hat switch and an ergonomic trigger. Its striking orange accents and backlighting bring gamers’ immersion to a whole new level. | H.E.A.R.T HallEffect AccuRate TechnologyIn order to deliver exclusive high-precision performance, pitch and roll on the T.16000M FCS flight stick employ H.E.A.R.T HallEffect AccuRate Technology (U.S. patent US08471815) for 16-bit resolution (i.e. 16000 x 16000 values) – the same pinpoint accuracy delivered by the extremely high-end HOTAS Warthog joystick, allowing gamers to engage their enemies with surgical precision. The helical spring (0.1” / 2.8 mm in diameter) inside the stick provides firm, linear and smooth tension. | Ambidextrous designThe joystick’s unique ambidextrous design can be easily switched between right-handed and left-handed use. Its twisting handle controls the rudder by default, but can also be locked in place. Piloting with a joystick in each hand is now possible in all games compatible with two joysticks. |
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Thrustmaster advanced flying ecosystemThese products are part of a range of flight simulation peripherals that can be used in conjunction with one another: a complete ecosystem featuring the FCS flight stick, TWCS throttle, TFRP rudder pedals* and MFD* (Multi-Functional Display) cockpit panels. These elements are also compatible with the T.A.R.G.E.T advanced programming software. * Sold separately. | T.A.R.G.E.T advanced programming software on PC: program up to 256 buttons in the flying ecosystemThrustmaster Advanced pRogramming Graphical EdiTor software: combine with other Thrustmaster devices (so that they are recognized as a single USB device), and load or create specific mapping profiles for each game. Tailor your own profiles to enhance most Thrustmaster flight controllers, and share them with the Thrustmaster community. | Ergonomic design for optimum comfort and precisionThanks to its design and ergonomics, the T.16000M FSC provides players with multiple recognizable features, allowing them to become more effective and accurate when in flight. This enhanced access to flight controls proves even more essential when players are fully immersed in the exceptional flight experience delivered by VR-compatible games. |
| Dimensions: | 10 x 10 x 3 cm; 1.3 Kilograms |
| Model: | 2960773 |
| Origin: | China |
It's good
Great for left handed users. Just remove grip, remove screw and put on left handed grips. Loosen screw at bottom and rotate hand rest. No problems with anything, works good.
Great value
I honestly did not expect much from this throttle. However I’ve been really pleasantly impressed with it for both DCS and Xplane11. I’ve used it on both PC and MAC both without trouble. I haven’t needed the Thrustmaster T.A.R.G.E.T. software at all but it’s good to know you can extend the capability with that. I was looking to Pay a LOT more for a higher-end throttle, but I’m glad I went this direction for now.
Very nice
Very nice items, the Target software is little complicated to use especially for beginners, but it’s not a dealbreaker. The lower button array is not as ergonomic as I’d like, a couple more hat switches on top would have been more preferable. The Throttle is perfect, including it’s different shaped 4 way buttons, allowing you to reach and use the correct one without having to look. The Throttles resistance is adjustable using a ‘hidden’ screw underneath. I hear a lot of users lubricating or returning the device without checking for this adjustment. On the whole both devices are perfect for my needs.
Great item but not perfect.
A bit tricky to set up at the beginning, but once I got it working, it was well worth the wait. Playing games like start citizen feel much more immersive now. The plastic feel is a bit off putting and the grip at the bottom is a bit loose, but other than that, great item
Quality for the money
Using it to play Star citizen… Does what it says on the tin. Well made, will use for years. Chosen based on quality for outlay
Good joystick.
I mainly use this for ArmA and MSX Flight Sim, really good quality and really responsive. Plenty of buttons available.
Good quality
Comfortable to use, grips the surface good and good layout.
Lefty bit first, yes I’m left handed and so is my spouse, so most joysticks are right handed, so I originally got one of these to go with the FCS for Elite Dangerous. That was better, I swapped it to left handed, but now the FCS buttons are just odd, buy another TM16000M – good much better. Rotations on the left hand stick, translations on the right hand stick and with the TARGET software make the right triggers a shift up and shift down. Now have stupid numbers of buttons on the base (none of which I use as I use Voice Attack/HCS Voice Packs). But these also allow me to shift the hat buttons other top buttons and so panels of the left (never use ’em) and targeting on the right.
This works perfectly and so when I got Elite for my spouse, this was first on the list.
As to the joysticks themselves, very smooth, could do with a centre click on the base throttles (extra throttle on right, zoom of left) but just allocated a dead zone in TARGET. Bttons could be better dientified – I stuck rubbler/fluff pads on so I can tell without removing the Oculus. Screwed them down to boards, so moving isn’t an issue and the buttons are OK without being exceptional the sticks themselves feel like they have steel shafts nice and solid.
I did look at the Warthog but it’s right handed, this just works better for me. Bottom line, overall bought four joysticks in total, make of that what I think of them.
Excellent product if you can remember all the assigned buttons!
Bought it for use with Xplane B737 simulation- many options but an improvement would be a way of labeling the many buttons if your memory is old like mine!
A whole new level of immersion for flight/space Sims.
I bought this primarily for Elite Dangerous.
I enjoyed the game very much with just mouse and keyboard but this thing has changed the enjoyment level for the better x100.
I tried a cheaper flight stick to get an idea of the controls And it was good but the real experience was clearly in a HOTAS such as this.
It’s a great product for the price since they can go much higher(see the Warthog for example). Loads of mappable buttons , nice smooth motion of the stick with just enough resistance and articulation. Plug in and play right from the box.
If you are thinking of getting a first HOTAS, you cant go wrong with this for a first buy.
Great joystick
Bought this joystick to replace the previous excellent T16000 [green one] which is still going strong after a few years,except that 2 of the buttons have packed up. Shame you can’t easily replace switches .
Amazing build quality.
Very nice rudder pedals, Easy to move and manuvere and they can be used for flight and car games. I think that they are just as good at the Logiteck Saitek rudder pedals for 40.00 cheape
Amazing build quality.
Very nice rudder pedals, Easy to move and manuvere and they can be used for flight and car games. I think that they are just as good at the Logiteck Saitek rudder pedals for 40.00 cheape
Good
Really nice. Sliding forward and back is not as smooth as expected, I’ll have to open up it up and lubricate with some silicone spray at some poi
Great prouc
Works well with FSX, unlike my other one. Is smooth and easy to calibrate to match your needs. Also looks the part.
The rudder peddals work very well when used in DCS. Good quality and smooth movements in them. Could be better quality construction, however they are of good quality construction, especially for the price.
The rudder peddals work very well when used in DCS. Good quality and smooth movements in them. Could be better quality construction, however they are of good quality construction, especially for the price.
The rudder peddals work very well when used in DCS. Good quality and smooth movements in them. Could be better quality construction, however they are of good quality construction, especially for the price.
The rudder peddals work very well when used in DCS. Good quality and smooth movements in them. Could be better quality construction, however they are of good quality construction, especially for the price.
e’ formidabile, una precisione da sfioramento.. io poi che sono mancino difficile trovare un prodotto cosi, e fortunatamente con una tecnologia unica a magneti heart hell effect tecnologi precisione 16 bit risoluzione 256 volte superiore a qualunque altro 16 bit. 16.000 x 16.000!!! pazzesco.
A great mid-range joystick
I bought this joystick to replace my 20-year-old Logic3 one, which had become unusable through over-sensitivity and faulty sensors. I’d read that this Thrustmaster FCS joystick used magnets for much more precise control input and that it was ideally suited for the accurate demands of flight simulators. I have no regrets in buying this model for the extra 25 or so as it is an excellent stick! I’d recommend this joystick to anyone who is serious enough about flight simming, but who still is on a reasonable budget and cannot justify buying a yoke or top-end stick. The response and fine accuracy of this stick takes both my civil and fighter flight experience to a whole new level of satisfaction. The increased financial outlay over most basic/standard joysticks is worth it!
Affordable good performance
The T.16000 sits nicely in the range between the T.Flight and Warthog. Two sticks make for precision manoeuvring and feels entirely natural in a space sim.
They’re well-made, comfortable and have magnetic sensors for *reliability. Base buttons feature concave or braille surfaces, useful for playing in VR. Orange lighting complements Elite Dangerous’s colour scheme.
Each stick can be made either left or right-handed so if you don’t get on with them you can always use one for another setup. (Two right hands anyone? xD)
Thrustmster’s TARGET software makes them immensely customizable and there are several downloadable presets for games like Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous (more would be welcome).
I’d prefer a bit more weight to the base but there are mounting holes underneath.
All in all good value for money considering the price of some sticks.
*After some time the z-axis (twist) of both sticks exhibited erratic behaviour. Apparently an ordinary potentiometer is used for this axis and is prone to causing trouble. (Shaving a little off the casing can fix it.)
Really good produc
It is a really good joystick for the price. I used it for X-Plane 11 and FSX and it works perfectly. At rest, no displacement was shown so it was perfectly calibrated. There are a decent amount of buttons as well on the left and right side. The throttle is really well made but however sometimes, it is really easy to move the throttle while holding the stick, but that is a user issue.
The only issue is that to switch between left hand right hand options requires me to unglue the RH flap and glue the LH one.
Great stick for the price, base buttons a shame though.
Fantastic stick let down by the buttons on the base. Please note this is only when used as part of a HOTAS setup, you don’t have the spare hand to press the buttons on the base, so you fumble around for them in Elite:Dangerous. Strongly suggest map all functions from the stick base to the Cougar MFD panel or similar.
Good Quality!
I bought this rudder pedal because the Logitech ones weren’t available when I bought my yoke and throttle set. I’ve used Thrustmaster steering wheel and pedals for Euro Truck Sim 2 for years and always found them solid and reliable and genuine value for money, and this set seems just as solid, if not more so.
Have only been using them for 24 hours but can’t find anything negative to say – I’d recommend them and they plug into the USB on the Logitech yoke or into your PC.
A note to the X-Plane 11 enthusiast. In my setup I had to reverse the toe brakes in the configuration as brakes were permanently on when disengaged and would only come off when pressed. I think I had to download a driver for X-Plane to enable them but the support is on the website.
Upgraded flight experience with them.
Very fast delivery and excellent packaging. After a few moments in setting up the pedals work as expected. The flying experience is upgraded with them, although I need some time to get familiar at using them correctly.
Feels like you are in control.
I have been researching HOTAS controls for some time and realise there is a big difference in the price and finished article. My purchase was for the two controls. I am using it for ELite Dangerous, which I have been playing for almost a year now and have felt that I needed something extra to help me during an interdiction. Although I spent some time in setting up the binds – it was recognised immediately by ED – the additional links to the keyboard controls was not straightforward, but that has nothing to do the HOTAS controls. I now have 42 controls at my fingertips to fly my ship with ease. Playing Elite Dangerous has suddenly become more enjoyable and I’m delighted with my purchase. I would certainly recommend this setup.
Il prodotto nonostante stato acquistato “Usato” era intonso l’unica pecca che mi ha concesso di prendelo a 23.99 stata la scatola danneggiata (non un prodotto che solitamente viene imballato oltre la sua scatola quindi molto probabilmente non sarebbe stata comunque da esposizione) Il Flightstick in se funziona perfettamente! Dopo averlo testato in vari giochi (WarThunder, DCS, Xplane, il2) sono pi che contento dell’acquisto, lo raccomando a chiunque cerca un buon prodotto ad un prezzo abbordabile!
Much better than the HotasX from thrustmaste
Elite Dangerous in VR with this kit is one hell of an experience. Can’t wait for Star Citizen too.
Much better than the HotasX from thrustmaster.
Good weight. Doesn’t squirm around on the desk. Once you’ve set it up with the Oculus, it really brings Elite: Dangerous to life. Same with FSX. But the big thing is desk stability, doesn’t tip over with sudden movements. Loads of buttons. Bit too expensive, but joysticks have essentially disappeared, and finding a left-handed on for a dual stick setup proved less easy than I expected. I thought this was the best of the bunch, and so far, seems better than adequate.
I was bit dubious when it arrived because the ball at the base seemed damp when it arrived, but a quick google showed it was silicon lubricant.
Easy to use and Works Flawlessly
Great Joystick For the price. I bought this Primarily for the left or right hand configuration for a Dual Stick setup for Space Sims and it works flawlessly. The twist feature works excellent and very easy to use instead of pedals in Flight sims. My only gripes are that the Hat switch feels a bit too cheap and it could use a bit more weight in the Base, also the orange led’s in the base turn on and off depending if the joystick was used in the last couple seconds which gets annoying after a while. Other than that the rubberized sides are a nice touch, and its quite reasonably priced considering its versatility.
Four Stars
Good set-up for the price the throttle though does tend to move sometimes under pressure.
Superb stick for the price
Bought this for Elite: Dangerous on the PC. I play in VR and my old stick lacked the right amount of buttons to make it easy to play without scrabbling for the keyboard.
My only niggle was I’m left-handed and, although the stick can be set up to play that way, the throttle can’t. So… I learned to fly right handed and, ,after a few weeks, it’s second nature. For the price I’d recommend this HoTaS to everyone looking for a budget solution.
The T-Flight Rudder Pedals are very nice, good solid construction and feel quite smooth in use, setup was quick and easy, works perfectly with X-Plane 11, DCS World and ArmA 3.
The T-Flight Rudder Pedals are very nice, good solid construction and feel quite smooth in use, setup was quick and easy, works perfectly with X-Plane 11, DCS World and ArmA 3.
Good bit of kit, huge improvement to gameplay
Arrived sealed and in mint condition, hotas works as expected and very simple to attach and use.
It feels great. It's a clear improvement over my old X52 ...
Got it as a BD present from my wife. It feels great. It’s a clear improvement over my old X52 pro, even if it looks a bit cheaper. The throttle however could have been a bit more smooth.
Perfect joystick for farming simulator 2017
Perfect joystick for farming simulator 2017, wood harvesting never goes better and the scorpion king is cutting like never before.
Use this for playing Elite Dangerous and it works a treat. Loads of buttons more than enough for what I need. Good sturdy design, looks and feels like it could take some serious abuse.
One down side was the stiff throttle which seems to be a common issue. Push the throttle all the way forward, turn the throttle base over and you will see a screw in the base. Simply loosen that off and you get a more smoother action. I also took it apart and put new grease on the runners.
An excellent choice.
Works a treat. No problems whatsoever with lots of buttons and axes.
They have good sensitivity and a negligible dead zone and have not ...
Has made aiming and coordinating turns much easier than with Thrustmasters twisting T.Flight Stick X. They have good sensitivity and a negligible dead zone and have not slipped or tipped up during breaking on our carpeted floor.
Five Stars
This is a very good piece of kit for the money.
Very pleased.
Bought this to compliment an HTC Vive vr headset for flying in Elite Dangerous and DCS World (Huey). Stick works beautifully. My only gripe was the throttle which juddered slightly and did not have a smooth back and forward motion. Annoying when you are trying to make minor flight adjustments. A quick search on the internet and found a perfect solution. Unscrewing the base, there are two rails that guide the throttle. These have light grease on which is not really adequate. I applied a light film of silicone grease to the rails, reassembled and now it glides back and forth seamlessly and smoothly. I don’t regret buying these for a moment.
Great product, bought it especially for Elite Dangerous along ...
Great product, bought it especially for Elite Dangerous along side the ‘Thrustmaster Throttle’ and it works very well with it.
Picked up T16000m hotas Upgraded from Logitech Extreme 3d pro found the movement on the T16000 to be way smoother and precise with way more travel which really helped, in fairness to the Logitech it has lasted me years, but with this new setup I find that I crash / loose control way less and landing is actually fun and controllable I mainly play DCS World, on windows 10, Feb 2018 and all works sweet . A nice feature of the throttle is small joystick that can be used with your index finger this is cool for radar target acquisition .. I have also tried elite dangerous and this joystick on throttle is so cool as it can be used to control up/down/left/right thrusters 🙂
I was worried for lack of buttons on joystick as I seen from reviews that this was main issue but what I have discovered is Logically you can just create a modifier Key to create more options example is I have small button on throttle nearest to my pinky finger set as modifier key so when I press this I have now a second option for those vital keys on top of joystick .
Five Stars
It’s great. I play Elite Dangerous in VR with it and it’s perfect.
and to say I'm well pleased is an understatement such a great product just plug ...
I’ve been looking to update my trusty hotas x because I needed more buttons I looked at so many different reviews of many hotas systems and this stood out compared to the rest ….. I did look at the thrustmaster warthog but price was a factor I could get all three stick,throttle,pedals for nearly half the price so I took the chance , and to say I’m well pleased is an understatement such a great product just plug and play with all the buttons I need I would highly recommend this for anyone serious about there flight or space sims this is a MUST!!!!!
A must have stick for Elite Dangerous
Amazing HOTAS for the price and a must for any Elite Dangerous players. The throttle is nice and smooth and just the right hight with plenty of buttons and switches to map ( Elite will recognise this stick and everything will be pre-mapped) if your throttle does feel a little tight just flip it over and there is a little Phillips screw you turn to the left and it relieves the tension which makes it super smooth. The base of stick and throttle are pretty heavy so there’s no movement and there is a screw to make it possible to screw to your desk. If your a lefty there is a hand rest that comes with it to attach and make the stick left handed. Everything comes assembled so no messing around just download the drivers and software and off you go.
I got for Elite Dangerous and it worked nicely out of the box, plenty of keys for all your binds. I specially liked that the throttle has a rail with a good range of movement.
Tip: Find the hole underneath the throttle, it will expose a screw when you set the throttle to full, use this screw to adgjust the internal brake of the throttle if you find it too stiff or too soft. It was too stiff when it came from factory and it was also lacking a bit of lube.
If you need to do maintenance and add lube, use silicone lube only, oil based lubes could damage the plastic.
Excellent piece of ki
Excellent piece of kit.
Discovering how to use the software to bind the controls to the game took about half an hour.
Suggest you search the net for ‘profiles’ that work with your game and tutorials on how to set it up. (Pay especial attention to ‘curves’.)
Excellent stick for the money
Excellent joystick for the money. I use two of them for Star Cit and Elite. Plenty of reviews on youtube so look there for more detail.
Yup it's good.
I only use it with Elite Dangerous and I think it’s great. It’s added a whole new dimension to playing this game and I cant imagine using a controller again for this type of game.
Yup it's good.
I only use it with Elite Dangerous and I think it’s great. It’s added a whole new dimension to playing this game and I cant imagine using a controller again for this type of game.
Solid build quality and precision control... it's also flipping comfortable
I’ll cut straight to the chase, this is a fantastic Hotas for the money. Good quality, great feeling action on all components, precise, comfortable and simplistic.
I purchased this stick as a replacement for my aging (but still functional) Thrustmaster T.Flight, and because the Saitek Rhino that was the original replacement had a mind of it’s own. This is a very nice bit of kit, and for half the price of the Saitek it’s very good value as well. The stick itself is very sensitive requiring the slightest of pressure to start registering the input. It uses the same 16bit resolution thingy that’s in the top end warthog, and it shows. Also it centers perfectly requiring no dead zone setup. The buttons all feel nice and solid and the stick is perfect for smaller hands.
On the throttle side of things, again lots of nice functionality, the rudder paddles are brilliant and offer lots of control when mapped to an axis, I use them for lateral thrusters in Elite Dangerous. There is also a very nice thumb stick on the back of the throttle, which has a nice big range of movement allowing for precise movements. The throttle itself feels a bit plasticy but has a nice shape, and moves on rails rather than having the typical pivot setup. It’s action is silky smooth and the tension can be adjusted if you want more resistance.
Both sitck and throttle are nicely weighted so shouldn’t move around too much, but you also have the option to screw them to a solid base. I mainly use this stick in VR, and it provides all of the controls I need in a package that allows me to access everything quickly by touch alone. When I was using the Rhino in VR, I found locating controls a little clumsy as there are so many fiddly toggles and hats (which are great if you can see).
I’d defiantly recommend this stick if you’re in the market for a good Hotas at around 100.
Very happy with this product perfect size and just the right ...
Very happy with this product perfect size and just the right amount of buttons improved my elite experience loads Edit – the twist axis has gone on both of my sicks but i have ficed them.
Value, lots of it.
5 stars from me, mostly because at this price, it is hard to find something that can give me the precise adjustments that this stick allows.
I have the old green one and then I bought this as a dual stick setup. I mean it does feel a little cheap but that’s because it is.
It’s still very sturdy and my first one has lasted 3 years of at least moderate abuse and is still going strong with a small dead zone applied that is.
If you are on a budget then this is the stick to choose.
Value, lots of it.
5 stars from me, mostly because at this price, it is hard to find something that can give me the precise adjustments that this stick allows.
I have the old green one and then I bought this as a dual stick setup. I mean it does feel a little cheap but that’s because it is.
It’s still very sturdy and my first one has lasted 3 years of at least moderate abuse and is still going strong with a small dead zone applied that is.
If you are on a budget then this is the stick to choose.
Best hotas for the money
I bought this throttle and joystick combo primarily to play elite dangerous. The throttle is silky smooth in use and the joystick has just enough resistance without ever becoming hard work. If there are any improvements I would like to see, a half-way decent on the throttle would be the main one as that would allow me to use the full range of the throttle for both forward and reverse.
I have previously owned various hotas from the saitek/mad cats range including ones more expensive than this thrustmaster one. They have always left me disappointed; buttons stop working … recalibration needed before every gaming session amongst other issues. So far the thrustmaster has not shown any signs of components wearing out nor have I ever had to recalibrate it.
Best Mid-Tier H.O.T.A.S. Setup On The Market RIGHT NOW.
This stick and throttle is possibly my most favorite gaming purchase of 2017, and that is saying ALOT considering this year I have purchased a 1080Ti, PS4 Pro, and a slew of games!
The quality of this setup at the 95 I paid for it is unmatched. I can’t say enough good things about this setup. The feel and accuracy of the stick and throttle exceeds what I was expecting. Thrustmaster products have yet to let me down, so I will continue to buy them.
What is with orange in gaming products this year? Seriously? That is the only not-so negative or con I can almost come up with about this product. The other only slight con about the stick is the single stage trigger, but I can easily forgive and live without it when the rest of this combo works so well.
There is not much else to tell you but, BUY IT. NOW! If you are looking to upgrade from a simpler setup to something affordable and much more capable, this is THE best option right now. A definite buy.
Reasonable value if it lasts.
Loads of buttons, hat switches and axis. Build quality is acceptable for the price. Throttle is very skippy and I would have thought it would have maybe have had a bit of lubricant added to prevent this. Worth it if you need the extra buttons and stuff but I think it is quite expensive for what it is. If it lasts a couple of years, I will view it as reasonable value.
Very cool joystick.
This is an excellent quality but still relatively budget joystick for SIM flight. My previous one was cheaper but honestly this is worth the extra. Super accurate, multiple configurable buttons, and of course a quality brand behind it.
Very cool joystick.
This is an excellent quality but still relatively budget joystick for SIM flight. My previous one was cheaper but honestly this is worth the extra. Super accurate, multiple configurable buttons, and of course a quality brand behind it.
Reasonable value if it lasts.
Loads of buttons, hat switches and axis. Build quality is acceptable for the price. Throttle is very skippy and I would have thought it would have maybe have had a bit of lubricant added to prevent this. Worth it if you need the extra buttons and stuff but I think it is quite expensive for what it is. If it lasts a couple of years, I will view it as reasonable value.
Works with windows 10, very good quality.
For a medium priced product very well contracted, sensitively of controls adjusts to suit your needs, easy to set up. Very please with this as works with windows 10.
Both the joystick and the throttle are great and have lots of buttons. The joystick allows for very smooth motions, but might need lubrication in the long run. The only drawback is that the joystick doesn’t have enough readily-accessible buttons. The base has lots of buttons, but you wouldn’t want to keep reaching for them and let go of the joystick in the middle of a dog fight. Probably a few more well-placed and easy to reach buttons would have made the joy stick a lot better.
The buttons are pretty cheap, the LED is over-bright, by all accounts but one this not a high quality joystick. There is one redeeming factor with this joystick that actually makes it streets ahead of the competition ~ it uses non-contact magnetic sensors. Most other joysticks use potentiometers, which have a metal slider pressing against a carbon track. The carbon track wears out really fast. A dedicated joystick user like myself will wear one out in two months. I have found the T.16000M generally lasts about three years, because it’s non-contact the sensors just don’t wear out. All the other parts will fail ahead of the sensors, and they do! Eventually the main ball joint loosens up, or a switch will fail, but the sensors just keep on going. These joysticks are very expensive for what they are, but because of the length of time they will last they work out much cheaper in the long-run. That’s why this stick gets five stars. It’s just a shame that they don’t do a version with a better ball joint and high quality switches, but even so, this is a great joystick.
The software is great, it allows you to do just about anything. I actually configure the joystick to be a digital stick.
The LED’s can be removed easily, provided you have a small screwdriver and don’t mind voiding the warranty. Just remove the screws on the base and identify the two wires that run to all the LEDs. They are red and black. Snip one and you are done! No glaring light show. Shame they don’t provide an on/off switch for them because they are horrific. Particularly at night they are blinding. If you don’t want to lose your warranty then you can tape over the orange plastic at the base of the stick, which really helps a lot.
I currently have four of these! Two are new, two have failed. The first failure the trigger switch stopped working. The second the ball joint is now so sloppy it’s almost unusable, but it still actually works. The third I am using right now the fourth is in reserve! Two failures in six years is pretty good.
Incidentally, the dual pack of these just contains two identical joysticks. One is set for right hand use, one for left, but either one can be converted to the other hand should you ever require it.
I purchsed this after recomendations from the Elite Dangerous forums for use with ED and the Oculus Rift.
All I can say is it’s a brilliant HOTAS setup and perfect for ED. With VR it has transfored a game into a simulator.
Configuration is a little length, took me about two hours, but that is due to the game interface rather than the HOTAS.
Once setup the controls are intuitive and work really well. Remember you can reuse functions depending on the mode
you are in. This acts as a force mutiplier when configuring the HOTAS.
Perfect for Elite Dangerous transforming a game into a simulation.
If you were thinking of getting a Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X, get this one instead, so worth the extra quids. Much smoother and quieter joystick action and the throttle control is a lovely slide, rather than a lever action. I’m not totally convinced by the need for 2 x 4 position switches on the throttle, I would have personally preferred some more single or two-position switches instead, but there are enough buttons to map a ton of stuff to them in a flexible way.
This isn’t a top-end yoke, not even a top-end flight stick, but it is a very decent ‘budget’ option. I’m a casual flight simmer so don’t want to fork out hundreds on my hardware, but I’m very glad I upgraded to this from the T-Flight, wish I’d just bought this to start with.
A complete game CHANGER!!!!
i had previously used the T-flight hotas x for ELITE DANGEROUS on pc, with that being a excellent starter hotas I soon ran out of buttons. so I plunged for this hotas and WOW what a joy it is! this has made a already excellent game into dream. this is a must buy if you’re after a reasonable priced Hotas so what you waiting for go and buy one and enjoy your gaming at a higher level …. o7
Pretty great all round, joystick accuracy is really great and all sliders are smooth. I’ve been using it with FSX before getting Elite Dangerous I’ll only list a few negatives as the rest of the function has been perfect.
– The rudder lever on the throttle requires some force to get to 100% on the left side. Not really an issue practically but it seems kinda strange.
– The dial is too easy to move during normal operation. Using this as mixture I have accidently cut the engine by trying to operate the throttle/rudder.
– Buttons on throttle are not convenient for HOTAS but they’re okay for things like parking brakes/pushback etc.
– (Very minor) Orange side button on throttle is slightly wobbly but doesn’t affect the use at all.
These are all minor points and I would definitely recommend the HOTAS as a great value, highly accurate setup. You won’t find a cheaper priced HOTAS that performs better than this.
Love these. Have had more expensive back in the ...
Love these. Have had more expensive back in the day but these are great for the money. I use with DCS, FSX Steam and X-Plane 11 (mostly). Easy to set up.
very nice joystick if you can get past the lighting coming ...
very nice joystick if you can get past the lighting coming on every time you move the stick (I have covered it with black insulating tape)
joystick is very responsive and has just the right amount of tension for me.
build quality is good enough for a stick that only costs 45 quid.
very nice joystick if you can get past the lighting coming ...
very nice joystick if you can get past the lighting coming on every time you move the stick (I have covered it with black insulating tape)
joystick is very responsive and has just the right amount of tension for me.
build quality is good enough for a stick that only costs 45 quid.
Easy to set up
Easy to set up, I play various piloting games, for which it is very good. I also play a couple of drive simulator games, I find it works very well with those also. All in all, excellent value for money.
Brilliant!!!
I got this for Elite Dangerous. I have been using an Xbox controller. This has completely changed my gaming experience. Using the default game set up has worked fine for me. Love the look and feel of this set. More than enough buttons and hat switches for those who want to build a perfect user profile. I would defo purchase another.
Brilliant!!!
I got this for Elite Dangerous. I have been using an Xbox controller. This has completely changed my gaming experience. Using the default game set up has worked fine for me. Love the look and feel of this set. More than enough buttons and hat switches for those who want to build a perfect user profile. I would defo purchase another.
Fantastic flight pedals, work perfectly with both of my sims, P3D V4 and Xplane 11. Plug straight in and Windows 10 recognises them and updates the drivers for you. You just need to configure them in whatever sim your using, and your good to go. Highly recommended for any flight sim person, especially if your wanting to keep cost down abit.
Great HOTAS se
Solid set with a very good attention to details. Works great, looks very very well. If you like games like flying simulators, this is a thing for you. On top of all the pricing is quite fair, which does not apply to other similar products.
Great HOTAS se
Solid set with a very good attention to details. Works great, looks very very well. If you like games like flying simulators, this is a thing for you. On top of all the pricing is quite fair, which does not apply to other similar products.
Great Pedals for great realism.
Awesome set of pedals to go with my Saitek pro flight yoke setup. If you’re currently using a joystick or autorudder for rudder controls, you need these. Using these adds so much more realism to flying; cannot recommend enough. Very sturdy build also. 100% satified.
Great for Il2 Cliffs of dover PC
Pretty tidy product. neatly packaged seems solid enough. heard they were narrow but they were wider that I was expecting. Definately more accurate than a twist grip joystick but I am completely having to learn how to fly again as I have used twist grip for years and had learned to make rudder adjustments subconsciously. Worked well in il2 Clod.
Very happy i bought this
I decided to take a chance on this, having owned a saitek cyborg fly 5 previously. Very happy i bought this. All nicely laid out, responsive and comfortable for prolonged use. Buttons are nicely positioned. I use it for elite dangerous, and am more than happy with it. Just need a solid well built throttle now.
Five Stars
Bought it for my son for Elite Dangerous – quite literally plug n paly
Nice mid ranged joystick
I’ve been using a cyborg gold joystick for over 10 years, this review is based on my comparison to that.
Pros:
Easy to change to left handed and back if needed. Only 2 screws to do so.
The joystick movement has a fair amount of resistance but it does scream quality.
No dead zone, it centres perfect every time.
Smooth movement, you feel in control with even the smallest of movements.
Fairly heavy, so stays well planted on the desk. Worst case, there are two screw points underneath if you need them.
Easy setup.
Cons:
The buttons feel soft, not a very positive click
The sick is a little oversized IMO. I’m a medium to large glove size and i feel my hands are on the small side for this stick. It’s not unusable, just doesn’t feel quite right.
When you move the stick the base lights up. After 3 seconds of being 100% centred, the light goes out, but comes back on when moved again. I’m finding this distracting. Great for checking if the stick is working correctly but with no option to turn this light off, i had to drop a star from my rating. There are videos online that show you how and which wire to cut to stop this but that will invalidate your warranty. I will cut mine as soon as the warranty has ended.
Only thing i haven’t mentioned so far is the slide throttle. Shame it’s not a rotational throttle like on my cyborg gold, but for a slide throttle, it does its job and feels fine.
My reason for getting this one is that it is the only quality left handed joystick on the market at the moment IMO
So far so good, (2 months old), after setting up with online help. Took some getting used to after the Saitek X52 pro, which after 4 of that didn’t make 12 months without some break or other. If this breaks early, will update.
Review for the
Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS Hotas
Excellent throttle unit and good joystick. Setting up the software, which needs to be downloaded, was a bit of a fuss compared to most other sticks (like the Thrustmaster HOTAS X which is just plug’n’play). But there are plenty of adjustment options in the program, if you need to deal with any key conflicts, repeat speeds, etc that you may get in a particular game.
On the throttle, your index finger is on another analogue joystick. This can be used like a 4-way switch like the other HAT switches, or as a proportional joystick – excellent for vertical/sideways thrust controls in Elite Dangerous!
The main joystick has excellent sensitivity, but I miss having some more buttons on top to be controlled with my thumb.
The throttle unit can be bought separately and (they say) used along side any joystick. If you’ve thinking of buying just the throttle unit to go with, say the Thrustmaster HOTAS, it’s worth noting that the joystick in this set has much better stick movement sensitivity.
After a week of use I am happy to report this is easily the best HOTAS I have come across especially at this price point. The actual stick has no deadzone. At all but more importantly corrects itself to center no matter how agressive you are in dogfights etc. In regard to the throttle I really do like this non-reutrn style and the granular control it brings. To describe the feedback it feels like its on a couple of rail sliders but they make no noise or generate any friction. The only minor issue I had was the POV analouge on the Throttle needed a large deadzone of around 10% setting. As landing in Elite Dangerous was niegh on impossible as the ship would not stop moving. Again minor and very easily rectified.
By far the best value for money HOTAS out there.
Get it. it's great!
Kinda goofy colour scheme but otherwise 0 problems with it. The runners on the throttle are easy to get to so if they get sticky at all some silicon grease is easily applied. I’ve go very big hands and they are comfy. Only minor issue (not for me) is although the stick can be made left handed the throttle can’t and would be quite uncomfortable.
Great joystick
Excellent joystick for the money. Great software support. Very accurate movement. A little stiff for my taste and no way to adjust. You can use cable ties to compress the spring, although this relies on opening up the base and can be fiddly. Could use another button on the stick but if you buy the throttle you will have more than enough buttons at your fingertips. Buttons on the base feel cheap but i don’t use them anyway. Also the orange light turns on when you move the stick and there is no way to turn it off. These are the small issues that stop me giving a 5 star review but overall a great joystick. Would recommend.
Solid feeling good performance but needs some tweaking to suit a large hands and fee
Not had it very long, but it feels solid. The sensitivity and deadzones are really good. A bit more mass in the base of the flight stick would be nice (or I suppose softer spring) as its possible to shift and tip the base around a bit. Would also be nice to have a little springloaded click on the throttle travel for normal throttle vs afterburners or forward vs reverse thrust.
Only other complaint from me is that its designed for people with much smaller hands and feet than mine. It suits most people just fine out the box I don’t doubt as I am XL or larger gloves, and UK size 14 (I think) feet. I’ve modded mine to make it work for me – some cloth backed duck tape between the removable thumb rest (its removeable for amidexterous use) covered in sugru to pad it out. And the heel rest on the pedals unscrews easily so I just took it off and it works fine without for me.
If you looking for a hotas look no furthe
Great hotas I got is as an upgrade to the hotas x, couldn’t be happier with i
Occupies the perfect sweet spot between the T.Flight and the Warthog.
Five Stars
Excellent! I use FSX & X-Plane and once set up they are brilliant. Well worth the money. Highly recommended!
Great, but not quite perfect.
I bought one of these (the kids bought me) for Christmas as an upgrade to a T-FlightX Hotas solely to play Elite Dangerous.
If you have played Elite Dangerous you will know how many commands you have and how many buttons that needs, this combo covers it all easily. I find I hardly use any of the buttons on the joystick base, but with all the combinations available via the throttle and the main stick buttons you have plenty.
In terms of build and quality, it is still fairly light weight and plasticy, and I found both parts tended to move on the desktop if you are a little enthusiastic with the controls. Also the rubber feet on my joystick were not balanced and it rocked back and forward. Both issues were fixed with some non-slip rubber mat cut to shape for both parts.
The stick itself is SO much better than the T-FlightX, the resistance is great, and the control is far smother and more precise, plus is has an orange light! The base buttons are pretty redundant as you cant press them with your hands on the stick and throttle, useful for things you only use when not flying. The throttle feels cheaper than the stick in my opinion, the plastic paddles on the back feel rather flimsy, but it works very well. I had to undo the screw that controls the friction of the slider almost all the way to get it to move nice and smoothly.
The level of control with using analog inputs is excellent, even with the mini joystick thingy.
Overall its a huge step up from the budget T-FlightX hotas, but you would hope so for nearly 3 times the price. Am I glad ‘the kids’ bought it for me for Christmas? Yes.
... go along side with my X52 and it works like a charm
I have set the T16000M to go along side with my X52 and it works like a charm.
Excellent FCS
Stll evaluating this system, but so far this is a brilliant Flightstick/Throttle/Pedal combination, but the learning curve for the programming software is fairly steep. This is a well engineered system, and is working perfectly on Win 10, provided the appropriate drivers are installed
Five Stars
Great product for the money. I use it with Elite Dangerous plenty of control buttons and hats.
Another fantastic product in the budget price range from thrustmaster. The buttons are mostly solid with exception of 3 rubber dome buttons that are a let down but acceptable. The analouge joystick proves to be a reliable input method particularly in space sims however I must complain about its placement. I would much rather prefer if the ministick was placed on the thumb a bit like CH pro throttle (which I own). Furthermore the dial has a lot of resistance which was uncomfortable to use with pinkie but hopefully it is moddable and already after use I see the resistance settling down. As for the precision of the axis; it is incredible, thrustmaster doesn’t compromise when it comes to quality electronics and I believe the z axis has 15 bit resolution (that is 32768 data points). All the other axis are 10 bit which is more than enough. The T.A.R.G.E.T software is very sophisticated and although a little unintuitive at first it can be very powerful in the hands of someone willing to write their own code. One cool possibility is to use the ministick as a hat switch if the game doesn’t support analouge values yet you need extra buttons.
Best I’ve “USED” excepting the ‘real thing’,
Real Professional feel (all be it fly by wire)
Spring and pressure settings, very simila
to my Cessna 152 experience.
Toe Brakes have a long Push (suitable
for Break/Throttle in Driving sim.)
I have experinced NO configuration
problems with X-Plane 10.